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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4320 on: May 08, 2019, 08:54:54 AM »
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BAAAWAAAHAHHAHAAAA! OMFG!! Life According to Brian. And the icing on cake is he's investigating Hendrix's "murder."  HAHAHAAA!

It's definitely Mary Tyler Moore.  I said that on the old PrayerDude thread.  You should put that one back up, Duncan.  Let Ralph Cinque and Brianhave at it again, just for old times' sake.

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« Reply #4321 on: May 08, 2019, 01:28:22 PM »
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It's definitely Mary Tyler Moore.  I said that on the old PrayerDude thread.  You should put that one back up, Duncan.  Let Ralph Cinque and Brianhave at it again, just for old times' sake.

It?s Michael Jackson, I?m telling you. I?ve proven it forensically, and I am the most skilled on the Internet. The first professional photo expert to look at this will confirm it.

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« Reply #4322 on: May 08, 2019, 03:12:49 PM »


Chris?

Your photo actually proves what I am saying because if you drew your height line correctly it would show Lovelady is shorter than Prayer Man in that frame...Since Lovelady was 5 foot 8 and Stanton was 5 foot 4, for Lovelady to be shorter means he has to be on the step and Stanton has to be on the landing...Since ALL the Prayer Man images in both Wiegman and Darnell show Prayer Man has the same height in all frames that proves Prayer Man is on the landing and never on the step - which in turn proves Prayer Man is too short to be Oswald...

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« Reply #4323 on: May 08, 2019, 04:33:46 PM »
"Chris - Really...Check out your height line as it goes left and see how uncredible it is as a straight measure..."
The height line is for Lovelady's head.
That's why I asked you to define where Prayer Persons head top is.
Otherwise, how do I know what you consider the top of Prayer Persons head to be?
If you can't show it in a graphic format, then describe what the declination angle would be using the existing blue line.
In other words, should I angle that blue line (starting from Lovelady's head) from right to left 1 degree downward, 2degrees etc etc.?



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« Reply #4324 on: May 08, 2019, 05:19:50 PM »
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"Chris - Really...Check out your height line as it goes left and see how uncredible it is as a straight measure..."
The height line is for Lovelady's head.
That's why I asked you to define where Prayer Persons head top is.
Otherwise, how do I know what you consider the top of Prayer Persons head to be?
If you can't show it in a graphic format, then describe what the declination angle would be using the existing blue line.
In other words, should I angle that blue line (starting from Lovelady's head) from right to left 1 degree downward, 2degrees etc etc.?


You never seem to answer the point...Your height line is invalid because it isn't properly oriented towards level according to the internal perspective...The answer is the top of Prayer Man's head is where it would be in relation to the proportions of the rest of the face...Simply interpolate it similarly to the proportions seen in Lovelady's head right next to it and you can see Lovelady is an inch or so shorter than Prayer Man in that frame...

The rest of your points are moot because what I wrote is good enough to determine that Lovelady is about an inch shorter than Prayer Man in that frame which means you have once again failed to answer the main point...That point is: since Lovelady is 5 foot 8 and Prayer Man is 5 foot 4, for Lovelady to be an inch shorter requires Lovelady to be on the step and Prayer Man to be on the landing...Since Prayer Man's height doesn't change between Wiegman and Darnell that proves Prayer Man is on the landing in both films and is therefore too short to be Oswald...

Lovelady is also on the landing platform in Altgens as proven by his being the same height as others who are seen on the landing in that same photo...

The line should follow the horizontal line of the decorative see-through cement blocks in the concrete screen...

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« Reply #4324 on: May 08, 2019, 05:19:50 PM »

Offline Zeon Mason

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« Reply #4325 on: May 09, 2019, 07:20:56 AM »
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Why do you think that Sarah didn't see Baker?

P.S. it's Stanton, not Staunton.


IDK if STANTON ;) saw Baker or not. All I know is there are no statements of hers on record or any from any relative late recollection of Sarah having seen any police officer approach or run up the front steps.

Of course there is always the possibility that Sarah was having a moment of unawareness as many others were, like BWF himself, and missed seeing the White Helmet Running Man.

If Stancek and other Prayer person is Oswald "convinced" supporters are placing Sarah behind BWF, thus in front of the door, then she is definitely an obstacle at 300 lbs girth.

And at this location, her LOS is rather restricted, thus higher probability of having missed Baker running on approach, while Pauline Sanders on the other hand has a better LOS from her east corner of landing, thus did remember seeing Baker.

But it could also be as probable that Sarah is prayer person in west corner, and that Baker went up the east side of steps, rather than west side, so would go very close to Pauline, while on the other side, Stanton, BWF are now focused on Gloria Cavalry.

This why i was asking which side Baker goes up? Left side or right side of steps?


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« Reply #4326 on: May 09, 2019, 12:35:16 PM »


Stancak is calling Pauline Sanders Sarah Stanton...He invented a position for Stanton that doesn't exist...If Stanton was where Stancak fabricates we would see her in Altgens...

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« Reply #4326 on: May 09, 2019, 12:35:16 PM »

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« Reply #4327 on: May 09, 2019, 01:21:24 PM »
Meanwhile, back in the real world...



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« Reply #4328 on: May 09, 2019, 01:33:44 PM »

Alan is proving my case by only being able to offer a one-liner that avoids all the evidence I discussed...

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4329 on: May 09, 2019, 02:09:44 PM »
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Of course there is always the possibility that Sarah was having a moment of unawareness as many others were, like BWF himself, and missed seeing the White Helmet Running Man.

Yes, and it?s just as possible that she saw him. Her only statement was when the FBI went around to all the employees to ask them if they saw Oswald that day. I doubt anybody asked her about the running cop.

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