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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4220 on: April 30, 2019, 01:06:05 AM »
Question: Which side are you on?

Neither?

Give that man a cigar.

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Then why is it that you never try to rebut the former (here, or at the EF), only the latter?

When have I ever ?tried to rebut? Duncan or Chris (or anyone else) for offering a stated opinion?

But here?s another clue: ?the former? doesn?t participate in this forum. Why would any sane person debate a person who isn?t here?

Clue 2:  none of these 3 people builds arguments on falsehoods that he invents about what people said.

Clue 3: in case you haven?t noticed, I don?t read or post to that other place ? other than one attempt to discern whether Doyle made up a story about something somebody allegedly posted there. And not surprisingly, it was yet another fabrication.
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Online Thomas Graves

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4221 on: April 30, 2019, 01:25:05 AM »


When have I ever ?tried to rebut? Duncan or Chris (or anyone else) for offering a stated opinion?

Exactly.  Do you agree or disagree with their stated opinions regarding the gender of Prayer Person?  How about that other guy's (hint: his first name rhymes with "fart")

Don't care to say?


But here?s another clue: ?the former? (hint: his first name rhymes with "fart") doesn?t participate in this forum. Why would any sane person debate a person who isn?t here?

Can't you find one of his surrogates here to rebut?  Your silence speaks volumes.

Clue 2:  which of these 3 people builds his arguments on falsehoods that he invents about what people said?

How do you know they're falsehoods?

Biased much?

Clue 3: in case you haven?t noticed, I don?t read or post to that other place ? other than one attempt to discern whether Doyle made up a story about something somebody allegedly posted there. And not surprisingly, it was yet another fabrication.

How do you know Sandy Larsen didn't post something at the EF which he thought proved that Lovelady is walking down Elm Street Extension in Couch-Darnell, and later deleted it, or that you simply can't find it?  Why do you automatically assume that Brian Doyle is a serial prevaricator?

Biased much?

Got an agenda?



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Online Brian Doyle

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« Reply #4222 on: April 30, 2019, 01:32:31 AM »

Davidson proved it was a woman...The rest is just a certain person desperate to get the discussion out into the useless, substance-less, content-less, attention-seeking waste of time of sophist equivocation...

Since there were only 2 women on the landing, and Frazier and Lovelady placed Stanton over in the same place as Prayer Man, that makes Prayer Man Stanton...


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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4223 on: April 30, 2019, 02:03:13 AM »
"Assuming that Prayer Person didn't substantially move in that 1/10 of a second, we can center on PP and see that he/she is the furthest away object and what can also be seen on the wall beside PP is PP's soft shadow created by the sunlight reflecting off all the people and is further evidence of PP's position on the top landing."
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John,

Very interesting work, especially regarding PP's shadow.

1) Does this mean Prayer Person wasn't standing awkwardly for thirty seconds or so with one foot on the landing, and the other foot on the top step?

2) If Prayer Person was the farthest person from Darnell's camera, and if Frazier was 6' 1.5" tall, what would you judge PP's height to be closer to --  Sarah Stanton's 5' 4", or Oswald's 5' 9.5"?

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Hi Thomas,

1. yes.

2. I made a cg recreation a while back and found PP to be about 5 foot 3.



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Very interesting work, especially regarding PP's shadow.

Yeah, while looking at the 3D PP with red/cyan glasses the shadow really stands out, it's like in the following photo the chair while in a shadow casts a shadow.



So by looking at the intensity and angle of the shadow it appears that PP is close to the wall and further back.





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« Reply #4224 on: April 30, 2019, 02:16:18 AM »

If Mytton and Lamson wanted to do some good they would make a clip of Prayer Man's movements from Wiegman in to Darnell...You would see Prayer Man make the turn Frazier described of Sarah turning towards him when Calvery shouted the president has been shot...If you paid close attention to that turn you would see Prayer Man never changes height between Wiegman and Darnell which proves Prayer Man is on the landing platform in both films and is therefore too short to be Oswald...

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4225 on: April 30, 2019, 02:36:30 AM »
Exactly.  Do you agree or disagree with their stated opinions regarding the gender of Prayer Person?  How about that other guy's (hint: his first name rhymes with "fart")

Don't care to say?

Already asked and answered. You even figured out the answer yourself. Have you forgotten already?

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Can't you find one of his surrogates here to rebut?  Your silence speaks volumes.

Which ?surrogate? has claimed to have proven PP is a man? Be specific.

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How do you know they're falsehoods?  Biased much?

Because they are. For example, Lovelady didn?t ?place Stanton in the PP position?. Doyle just made that up.

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How do you know Sandy Larsen didn't post something at the EF which he thought proved that Lovelady is walking down Elm Street Extension in Couch-Darnell, and later deleted it, or that you simply can't find it?  Why do you automatically assume that Brian Doyle is a serial prevaricator?

Because he is. I?ve documented hundreds of examples. Doyle can either prove that Larsen ever posted such a thing or he cannot. And he cannot. He made it up and used ?he deleted it? as a lame excuse for the post not existing.

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4226 on: April 30, 2019, 02:39:52 AM »
Davidson proved it was a woman...

Repeating a false claim doesn?t turn it into a true claim.

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Since there were only 2 women on the landing,

You?ve done nothing to demonstrate that this is correct.

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and Frazier and Lovelady placed Stanton over in the same place as Prayer Man, that makes Prayer Man Stanton...

No they didn?t. You just made that up.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4227 on: April 30, 2019, 03:06:07 AM »

Already asked and answered. You even figured out the answer yourself. Have you forgotten already?

Does Doyle's feeling confident that his opinions regarding Prayer Person are correct "bug" you so much that you feel morally (or something) obligated to try to rebut him?

If he were to express his opinions as "opinons," would you mind so much?

And what about the guy whose first name rhymes with "fart"?

Is it that you're totally unaware of what his "opinions" are regarding Prayer Person?  (Hint: He says it's been "proved" that Prayer Person is Oswald.)

Or is it that he (the guy whose first name rhymes with "fart") is just a blob to you?

Which ?surrogate? has claimed to have proven [sic] PP is a man?

Do you mean him or herself "proved," or claims that Sean Murphy and Andrej Stancak, et al., have already "proved"?


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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4228 on: April 30, 2019, 05:42:12 AM »
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Learn how the forum software works, Tommy.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4229 on: April 30, 2019, 05:48:20 AM »
Learn how the forum software works, Tommy.

Nice deflection, "Blobs".

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