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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4200 on: April 22, 2019, 02:16:22 AM »
God grant us patience!  ::)

Alan, how long are you going to keep milking the curtain rod story?.....  It's very obvious that the authorities were playing "fool the pissants" and creating forged documents .     Do you really think you can go beyond that fact?

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4201 on: April 22, 2019, 06:05:00 AM »
FWIW, Mr Cakebread, and this is not intended to be a debate, my take is that PrayerPersonImage is holding in their right hand, with assistance from the left hand, and drinking from, a cup that contains either a beverage, or possibly soup. After all, it was lunchtime. In any event, wearing a long coat, and with a small purse/handbag attached/strapped to the left forearm.

Also, if you "can't accept the idea that the person is Lee Oswald", just remember, neither did multiple eyewitnesses/co-workers on the landing/stairs at the time, nor did they ever indicate accepting said idea! 

Hey brains, like it or not that's exactly what the discussion forum accommodates, debate.  That would include interacting with your "opposition" in a meaningful way, by answering their tricky questions for one, instead of whatever it is you think you are doing, I have no idea, it all seems very alien to me.

Your "take" isn't even yours, it didn't come from you, you certainly didn't create the stabilized gif that led to that observation and you weren't the first to observe it or comment on it.  "... a beverage, or possibly soup." you say, even that's not original, you're just repeating the same crap others have already wondered about.

"wearing a long coat, and with a small purse/handbag attached/strapped to the left forearm".
'That's not #PM, that's Scarflady in Hughes and something else that others claimed to see before you on the Wiegman troll, blowup.
How about telling us why you'd trust that eyesore over the Darnell frames anyway, especially since you're already on record in this thread claiming you(iirc) "...didn't trust these "enhancements""?

"Also, if you "can't accept the idea that the person is Lee Oswald", just remember, neither did multiple eyewitnesses/co-workers on the landing/stairs at the time, nor did they ever indicate accepting said idea! "

No one was asked, "could LHO have come out late and stood on the top step behind you while you were watching the parade approach from Houston?".  I mean, it's fine if you don't believe it, just bring some game, make an effort at least, instead of this lame junk you keep repeating exactly like a troll would do.
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Re: Prayer Woman
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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4202 on: April 22, 2019, 06:28:29 AM »
Mr Cakebread, FYI, I remain convinced that PrayerPersonImage represents a female, and most likely SarahDeanStanton, who was then employed at the TSBD Bldg.

In DarnellFilm, she appears to me to be looking slightly to her right as if responding to GloriaCalveryImage, who as arriving along with two companions, and has announced what she/they had just witnessed.

And, to me PPI has never looked like LeeOswald.

"Convinced"?  That's more or less just a childish reaction to the "PM IS UNDOUBTABLY LHO" gang.  I thought we(other than BD) were looking something a little more substantive than that? 

You can see him looking to his right toward Calvery you say, well that's original at least but it's a shame you can't make anyone else see it or, it seems to me, have you ever tried or appear to want to.

Never looked like LHO? In Darnell? That's just ridiculously stupid and you know it. We have no facial features on PM in that footage as it stands.  Have you ever seen an image of LHO without facial features?  Would you like to see one?

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4203 on: April 22, 2019, 06:46:07 AM »


The Wiegman frame that appears to show something BWF in the same position he's in in Darnell, not sure what BD sees in what he posted.


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4204 on: April 22, 2019, 11:25:37 AM »
No one was asked, "could LHO have come out late and stood on the top step behind you while you were watching the parade approach from Houston?".

One exception! Mr Billy Lovelady was asked just this by the HSCA interviewer and admitted that yes, it was possible.

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I mean, it's fine if you don't believe it, just bring some game, make an effort at least, instead of this lame junk you keep repeating exactly like a troll would do.

He never debates, Mr Pollard, just repeats... and repeats... and repeats... Odd fellow  ::)

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4205 on: April 22, 2019, 04:00:21 PM »
One exception! Mr Billy Lovelady was asked just this by the HSCA interviewer and admitted that yes, it was possible.

He never debates, Mr Pollard, just repeats... and repeats... and repeats... Odd fellow  ::)

No one was asked, "could LHO have come out late and stood on the top step behind you while you were watching the parade approach from Houston?".


One exception! Mr Billy Lovelady was asked just this by the HSCA interviewer and admitted that yes, it was possible.

Sure it 's possible....   But the person in question ....Lee Oswald ... Said NOTHING about going to the front steps and watching the approaching parade....Lee said that he was in the Domino room when the Parade passed by.....He said nothing about being on the steps....



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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4206 on: April 22, 2019, 05:00:11 PM »
^Ultimately,  "not as far as we know" Walt and if one tries hard enough, I'm sure we could all think of a reason why he may have kept that lil' detail to himself(most of us CT's anyway), just don't ask me.  Two Oswaldskis!?  Bwian?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4207 on: April 22, 2019, 05:38:43 PM »
Lee Oswald ... Said NOTHING about going to the front steps and watching the approaching parade....

What are you babbling on about?  ::)


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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4208 on: April 22, 2019, 11:18:35 PM »
What are you babbling on about?  ::)




Here is my alternative to explain Will Fritz scribbles converted to notes later, implying Oswald had lunch with Harold Norman and James Jarman, which Fritz chose to "remember" but at the same time Fritz "forgets" about Oswald having stated anything about standing outside looking at the parade:.

 Oswalds statement could have actually been:: "I was eating my lunch in the Domino room after having gone up to get a coke from 2nd floor, and I saw Norman and Jarman return, maybe around 12:25 and I heard them talking that the JFK limo was nearing the plaza. That is when I decided to go outside at the front entrance, to watch the parade.

Does anyone think that Will Fritz, under pressure from  FBI Hoover and LBJ to make sure Oswald "is their man", would DARE record such statement in full. detail, let alone have that recorded on tape or even recorded by official presence of attorney or a stenographer? 

 

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4209 on: April 22, 2019, 11:51:45 PM »
Can't really speak for Walt but I've seen that at least five times and that vital detail still never stuck in my thick head.

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Does anyone think that Will Fritz, under pressure from  FBI Hoover and LBJ to make sure Oswald "is their man", would DARE record such statement in full. detail, let alone have that recorded on tape or even recorded by official presence of attorney or a stenographer?

Even without the added pressure of this case, no way in hell would Fritz help any guilty man by repeating what he said in his own defence.  His job to hang guys like this was hard enough already IMHO.

 

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