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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #371 on: July 01, 2018, 12:41:25 AM »
Friends, it's possible, of course, that the excellent Stancak has found the solution to Prayer Man's location but that his suggested posture of left knee bent up a step------------



-------------is incorrect.

Prayer Man's upper body could be exactly as Stancak proposes, and his right leg could be on the first step down as Stancak proposes, BUT
---------------his left knee could be bent beneath him, allowing the ball of his left foot to rest on the landing
OR
---------------his left leg could be crossed over his right leg, allowing the ball of his left foot to rest on the first step down.

Try standing on a stairs like this, folks. I have just done so and they're both perfectly natural and easy postures, allowing one to lean in comfortably to the right hip. No health & safety issues raised! Thumb1:

All we have to do is ask ourselves one easy question; Do the women on the east in Darnell who are turned even further to to side have to have their legs up?
Can you even imagine those woman putting their legs up in a public place?
So I agree Alan, it just doesn't have to be and might be better without it.
The leg up has always been an interpretation and we've been straining to see it, it loses nothing when it's gone, could still be all on the step like those girls opposite PM, one of whom was pregnant, so even less likely to get her leg over up.

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #372 on: July 01, 2018, 12:56:22 AM »
Scaled to fit previous Darnell LOS designation:
Radiator would probably reside somewhat higher than it appears on the superimposed Darnell frame. Imo

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xr7FEvgosjYZ4kEu70xWXn7bO_PQvLr5/view?usp=sharing

I can't see this on my old rig, only still images come through on Googledrive, I know...
would love to see it though and if you could upload it in another older format just this time I would appreciate it Chris.

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #373 on: July 01, 2018, 01:10:38 AM »
Friends! If you look closely (as I know you ALWAYS do), you can make out Frazier behind Lovelady in Wiegman:



Lovelady only reaches up to Frazier's chinny chin chin!

We all KNOW that Billy Lovelady (5'8?") is on the landing, right?
Cool  Thumb1:
This allows us to establish that
---------------just as Prayer Man cannot be LHO because he's on the landing and is thus too small
---------------Billy Lovelady cannot be Billy Lovelady because he's on the landing and is thus too small  :o



Also, Shelley's must be on the landing because of that shadow covering his eyes and yet there is nothing similar visable on Lovelady.
In the foootage posted by Chris that shows Fritz coming onto the scene we see the tallest cop only getting hit by shadow when he puts both feet on the landing.
Evidence enough there too for that to be Frazier in Wiegman for most of us I think.

Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #374 on: July 01, 2018, 01:26:35 AM »
Brian,
The easiest way to address the column and lintel shadows is to create a shadow screen, and sequentially move it from the door to the landing. I've done this 0.2 ft increments. Please note that at no time will that shadow corner come close to Frazier's shoulder. Sorry, I'm not sure what else I could do to help your shadow study.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lTLmVGUaltRlp2dl3TZel3DuH8uaO8ab/view?usp=sharing

p.s.
I tried to post this earlier but I think my reply timed out before it went out. If it is a dup just forget it. It shows the Lovelady figure on the 6th step and shifted 2ft westward in increments of 0.2ft. He just can't reach the column shadow.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bN6mK9flsuFE_m3QkuZlcp_DBUz0rXxx/view?usp=sharing
 
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« Last Edit: July 29, 2018, 03:37:09 AM by James Hackerott »

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #375 on: July 01, 2018, 01:56:08 AM »
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Certainly, I am sure you undoubtedly meant to indicate and insult me, but perhaps a look in the mirror would be appropriate prior offering another forum member insult like, "casting pearls before swine".

...and what was Larry's opinion on the much more obvious, constant and repeated insults directed toward members here and elsewhere, other than himself of course, from one particular person who claims this thread as his own?
Nothing, complete silence, evidently he did not give a damn. Now he's insulted?

Thank you Duncan!

Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #376 on: July 01, 2018, 03:03:43 AM »
Barry,
Is it the angled shadow on the fourth riser from the bottom that you suspect might be a glitch? If that is so that angled shadow includes the column base, colored gray and simplified as a square block. It is of smaller size than the big block it sits on. Tomorrow I can make some simple graphics that breakup the riser shadows into their respective sources.
Thanks for questioning what looks odd  ;)
 


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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #377 on: July 01, 2018, 04:27:54 AM »
Looking at the general shape of the person.. the shading of the shirt/or top etc
Could this individual.......




Be this same individual at the bottom right with their back to the camera?
The shirt sleeves in the doorway could be somewhat rolled up....?

 

 
A little liberty in reproducing here.....