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Online Ray Mitcham

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #280 on: June 27, 2018, 11:35:23 AM »
Unless a jacket is very loose fitting, Ray, it will tilt with the body, especially if the body is leaning back a little. Just like we see here:



There's simply no way this is a shadow cast by the left column, otherwise this photo taken a little later, with the sun a little further west, would be impossible in the way it shows the motorcycle officer in direct sunlight:



The cop in the motorcycle helmet is standing further forward on a lower step than the others. You can see the shadow of the left column, to the right of his right leg. You can also see the shadow cast by the lintel to the lower left of the cop on the right.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #281 on: June 27, 2018, 11:43:52 AM »
If there is any member of the forum, able to get to the TSBD in the next few days, it would be easy to prove that Stancek is quite correct. Assuming the weather is sunny and it should be this time of the year, I will tell him or her what time to stand on the steps to simulate Frazier's position. The sun's shadow will be the same plane, at 12.32 today, as it was at 12.30 on 11.22.63.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #282 on: June 27, 2018, 11:50:50 AM »
The cop in the motorcycle helmet is standing further forward on a lower step than the others. You can see the shadow of the left column, to the right of his right leg.

No, they're both one step down. The motorcycle cop's hand is on the top of the railing.



Here's the scene ca. 12:50pm:



Look at the man in green entering the building, and the cop in charge who casts a shadow on his back. No way can we get from a west pillar shadow down Lovelady's side in Wiegman at 12.30pm to this.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #283 on: June 27, 2018, 11:56:40 AM »
No, they're both one step down. The motorcycle cop's hand is on the top of the railing.



No the motorcycle cop is much shorter than the cop on the right who is standing on the top of the steps. The cop in the middle also looks as thought he is standing on the same step as the motorcycle co, otherwise he would have the same shadow on him, as the cop on the right.
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Here's the scene at 12:50pm:



Look at the man in green entering the building, and the cop in charge who casts a shadow on his back.

No, it isn't the cop's shadow. It is the shadow of the lintel on the green man as he enters. Note how the shadow moves down the man's back in a straight line. This wouldn't have happened, if it was the cops' shadow to his left.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #284 on: June 27, 2018, 12:00:08 PM »
No the motorcycle cop is much shorter than the cop on the right who is standing on the top of the steps.
No, it isn't the cop's shadow. It is the shadow of the lintel on the green man as he enters.

I'm not talking about the horizontal lintel shadow (which is obviously there) but the fact that no vertical shadow from the west pillar is appearing on green shirt man's back. As Hughes shows, even the presiding cop is in direct sunlight!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #285 on: June 27, 2018, 12:02:40 PM »
I'm not talking about the horizontal lintel shadow (which is obviously there) but the fact that no vertical shadow from the west pillar is appearing on green shirt man's back. As Hughes shows, even the presiding cop is in direct sunlight!

If the "presiding cop" has no shadow on him, he is obviously not in the shadow of the left column. so the man to his left would hardly have a shadow would he?
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Re: Prayer Woman
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #288 on: June 27, 2018, 12:13:42 PM »
If the "presiding cop" has no shadow on him, he is obviously not in the shadow of the left column. so the man to his left would hardly have a shadow would he?

The Hughes shows just how far west you had to go in that entrance to catch shadow from the west pillar!

For the shadow-on-Lovelady theory to be correct, we would have to be seeing a clear vertical shadow appearing on the back of green shirt man at some point as he goes up the steps and onto the landing. But there's not a hint of one.



This completely rules out a shadow from the west pillar as the cause of the dark border on Lovelady in Wiegman.

Remember, Ray--------the dark border doesn't just show on Higher Lovelady. It's there on him when he steps down too!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #289 on: June 27, 2018, 12:14:59 PM »


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