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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2500 on: February 11, 2019, 04:49:19 AM »
Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

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Friends! Anyone who has been following this issue without bias will understand the scale of the breakthrough that James Hosty's note represents. It proves beyond any question that the interrogation report filed under the sole name of James W. Bookhout was a despicable lie. This report deprived Mr Oswald of his alibi by distorting completely what he had been telling Captain Fritz in custody.

Here's the first interrogation report to which Bookhout put his name. It's a joint report written with James Hosty:

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the  second floor where the coca cola machine is located and obtained a bottle of coca cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building.

Here's the Hosty note that has just come to light:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Now! The thing to note about both of the above is that they are saying the same thing. But with this teeny weeny difference: the Hosty note lays it all out plain and simple, whereas the joint Bookhout/Hosty report uses weasel words to create some ambiguity.

Now!! Just take a look at what happens to Mr Oswald's reported words in the subsequent Bookhout-alone report. It's quite something...

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee?s lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly.

This report was written to hide some simple facts, viz.--------------
1. Mr Oswald visited the second-floor lunchroom before the assassination (Ms Carolyn Arnold and Ms Sarah Stanton are 100% vindicated!)
2. Mr Oswald took his Coca Cola down to the first floor and went out front to watch the parade
3. There was no second-floor lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly.

The mantra of the Anyone-But-LHO-As-Prayer-Person crowd-----------
Oh but that's crazy, Oswald himself never claimed to have gone out to see the President!
-----------can no longer be taken seriously by any self-respecting researcher.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.  Thumb1:


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2501 on: February 11, 2019, 05:00:26 AM »
As I've already stated, no self-respecting researcher will deny the bombshell importance of these words from James Hosty:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2502 on: February 11, 2019, 06:16:33 AM »
Friends! Anyone who has been following this issue without bias will understand the scale of the breakthrough that James Hosty's note represents. It proves beyond any question that the interrogation report filed under the sole name of James W. Bookhout was a despicable lie. This report deprived Mr Oswald of his alibi by distorting completely what he had been telling Captain Fritz in custody.

Here's the first interrogation report to which Bookhout put his name. It's a joint report written with James Hosty:

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the  second floor where the coca cola machine is located and obtained a bottle of coca cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building.

Here's the Hosty note that has just come to light:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Now! The thing to note about both of the above is that they are saying the same thing. But with this teeny weeny difference: the Hosty note lays it all out plain and simple, whereas the joint Bookhout/Hosty report uses weasel words to create some ambiguity.

Now!! Just take a look at what happens to Mr Oswald's reported words in the subsequent Bookhout-alone report. It's quite something...

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee?s lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly.

This report was written to hide some simple facts, viz.--------------
1. Mr Oswald visited the second-floor lunchroom before the assassination (Ms Carolyn Arnold and Ms Sarah Stanton are 100% vindicated!)
2. Mr Oswald took his Coca Cola down to the first floor and went out front to watch the parade
3. There was no second-floor lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly.

The mantra of the Anyone-But-LHO-As-Prayer-Person crowd-----------
Oh but that's crazy, Oswald himself never claimed to have gone out to see the President!
-----------can no longer be taken seriously by any self-respecting researcher.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.  Thumb1:

There has always been a great oddity contained in the original Hosty/Bookhout interrogation report:

"Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building."

Sheesh, guys, maybe you could give us some idea of, like, where exactly on the first damn floor he's claiming to have been. Cos, ya know, he is the prime suspect in the assassination and all! Is a bit of detail too much to ask for?

The newly discovered (by Mr. Bart Kamp) handwritten note from James Hosty both gives us the detail we were looking for, and explains why there was no way in hell it was ever going to find its way into an official printed report:

"Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade."

The game's well and truly up now. Only fools and knaves will continue to cling on to the discredited lunchroom encounter garbage and its attendant idiocies. And only fools and knaves will continue to deny the significance of the figure standing on the west side of the doorway in the Wiegman and Darnell films. It's none other than Mr Oswald.

The arc of the moral universe may be long, friends, but it really does bend toward justice.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2503 on: February 11, 2019, 04:26:26 PM »
PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Prayer Man is Oswald.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Not even Oswald said he went out front!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: There's lots of evidence pointing to the contrary.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's no evidence to the contrary!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What about Harry Holmes's WC testimony, and...

LONE NUTTER: You call that evidence? Ha ha ha. Nothing to see here!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What if we were to find hard evidence that Oswald said he went out front?

LONE NUTTER: So you admit you have no hard evidence! Ha ha ha. Try harder!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Actually, we have just uncovered a note written by Agent James Hosty which states that Oswald said he went out front.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note proves that Captain Fritz and co. lied about what he said in custody.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note corroborates Carolyn Arnold and Sarah Stanton's sighting of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's absolutely no photographic or film evidence of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination. Ha ha ha. Try harder!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2504 on: February 11, 2019, 05:19:33 PM »
The Hosty note that is breaking hearts...



But hang on! Maybe the P. in 'P. Parade' stands for Post-Assassination or Pandemonium?

Skilled researchers will confirm that 'Post-Assassination Parade' and 'Pandemonium Parade' were far more common expressions in 1963 Dallas than 'Presidential Parade'.

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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2505 on: February 11, 2019, 07:39:21 PM »
PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Prayer Man is Oswald.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Not even Oswald said he went out front!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: There's lots of evidence pointing to the contrary.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's no evidence to the contrary!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What about Harry Holmes's WC testimony, and...

LONE NUTTER: You call that evidence? Ha ha ha. Nothing to see here!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What if we were to find hard evidence that Oswald said he went out front?

LONE NUTTER: So you admit you have no hard evidence! Ha ha ha. Try harder!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Actually, we have just uncovered a note written by Agent James Hosty which states that Oswald said he went out front.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note proves that Captain Fritz and co. lied about what he said in custody.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note corroborates Carolyn Arnold and Sarah Stanton's sighting of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's absolutely no photographic or film evidence of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination. Ha ha ha. Try harder!


I tend to wonder, as I do often wander, to whom this Reply is addressed. I tend to assume that "LONE NUTTER" is a reference to those that embrace the LeeHarveyOswald/LoneGunmanAssassinTheory. And, I tend to assume that "PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE" is a reference to those that embrace the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory.

For clarification, I have yet to be able to embrace either theory.
However, I do believe that there is reliable indicative information as positive evidence that RoyTruly and MarrionBaker did encounter LeeOswald at the SecondFloorLunchRoom about 60-90 seconds after the shooting/fatal wounding of JohnKennedySr and shooting/critical wounding of JohnConnallyJr.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2506 on: February 11, 2019, 09:17:58 PM »
Friends, one cannot but be impressed at the fact that, when the Prayer Man theory was developed over 5 years ago, a bold double inference was made from the available evidence that Mr Oswald had claimed in custody
A) to have gone to the 2nd floor lunchroom for a coke before (not after) the motorcade
B) to have gone out front for the motorcade.

And now we get this stunning confirmation, in the clearest language possible, of that bold double inference:



Tsk tsk. A terrible, terrible week for the anti-Prayer Man zealots  :'(



Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2507 on: February 11, 2019, 09:42:32 PM »
Friends, one cannot but be impressed at the fact that, when the Prayer Man theory was developed over 5 years ago, a bold double inference was made from the available evidence that Mr Oswald had claimed in custody
A) to have gone to the 2nd floor lunchroom for a coke before (not after) the motorcade
B) to have gone out front for the motorcade.

And now we get this stunning confirmation, in the clearest language possible, of that bold double inference:



Tsk tsk. A terrible, terrible week for the anti-Prayer Man zealots  :'(

Alan,

Prayer Man advocates discount the sworn testimonies of Marion Baker, Roy Truly and Jeraldean Reid. They have three or four others committing perjury as well. Methinks your use of "zealots" is misdirected. If you want to see a real zealot, look in the mirror.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2508 on: February 11, 2019, 09:46:25 PM »
Quite a great new find. Hosty confirms that Oswald is Prayer Man.

How so? 

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #2509 on: February 11, 2019, 09:47:58 PM »
Alan,

Prayer Man advocates discount the sworn testimonies of Marion Baker, Roy Truly and Jeraldean Reid. They have three or four others committing perjury as well. Methinks your use of "zealots" is misdirected. If you want to see a real zealot, look in the mirror.

Hello Mr Nickerson!

Do you accept that Mr Oswald did in fact claim to have
A) visited the 2nd floor lunchroom before the motorcade
B) gone out front to watch the motorcade?

If not, how do you explain this from Agent Hosty?



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