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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1589 on: March 27, 2019, 02:39:06 AM »
Plus or minus how many milliseconds, Iacoletti?

I can always tell when you have no answer. You try to divert with sarcasm. When do you think the Towner sequence was filmed and when do you think the building was ?sealed off??

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When exactly do you think Jimmy Darnell filmed those three gals stepping off of The Pergola's patio, as we can see him starting to do in the Tina Towner clip?

I have no idea. What makes you think Darnell?s ?gals? are stepping off the pergola patio at all? And are you also claiming you can identify Darnell in the Towner clip? Based on what (other than a circular argument).

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1590 on: March 27, 2019, 04:05:56 AM »
I can always tell when you have no answer. You try to divert with sarcasm. When do you think the Towner sequence was filmed and when do you think the building was ?sealed off??

I have no idea. What makes you think Darnell?s ?gals? are stepping off the pergola patio at all? And are you also claiming you can identify Darnell in the Towner clip? Based on what (other than a circular argument).

Iacoletti,

Better minds that mine were speculating last year on this forum that that's Darnell in the Towner film, and that he was running towards the three "Darnell Women" on the pergola patio because he wanted to photograph them.

Maybe he heard Gloria Jeanne Holt crying in that three-woman group, and thought she'd be a dramatic subject?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1591 on: March 27, 2019, 04:31:03 AM »
Better minds that mine were speculating last year on this forum that that's Darnell in the Towner film, and that he was running towards the three "Darnell Women" on the pergola patio because he wanted to photograph them.

The operative word here is ?speculating?.

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1592 on: March 27, 2019, 09:42:02 AM »
The operative word here is ?speculating?.

Iacoletti,

Do you disagree with Unger's and Macrae's and Hackerott's "speculations"/conclusions ...

on the first page of this thread: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1303.0.html

... that Tina Towner's film captured James Darnell, lugging his over-the-shoulder camera bag as he ran towards the three gals on The Pergola Patio, after he had finished filming in the Parking Lot and then Marilyn Sitzman's being questioned by a FBI agent near "The Zapruder Pedestal"?

Josiah Thompson interviewed Sitzman in 1966:

Thompson: And then you watched the ... then after the head shot, the car disappeared under the underpass?

Sitzman: Uh huh. And I got off the concrete slab we were standing on, and I ran down the hill, and I met some men from across the street, and I took it for granted that they were Secret Service or CIA or something like that; and they asked me what happened, and I said, "they killed him." And I walked back up the hill, and I talked to an FBI man up there that did identify himself to me, but I don't recall his name, and then I walked back behind the marble thing there, not behind it, but back inside.


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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1593 on: March 27, 2019, 03:48:50 PM »
Do you disagree with Unger's and Macrae's and Hackerott's "speculations"/conclusions ...

on the first page of this thread: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1303.0.html

... that Tina Towner's film captured James Darnell, lugging his over-the-shoulder camera bag as he ran towards the three gals on The Pergola Patio, after he had finished filming in the Parking Lot and then Marilyn Sitzman's being questioned by a FBI agent near "The Zapruder Pedestal"?

All Unger said was, "I also see what may be the three Darnell women".

I don't know how you could possibly know that this running person is Darnell or that he took his footage at this particular time and place.  If you want to guess that it is then be my guest.  But at least admit that it's a guess.

Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1594 on: March 28, 2019, 03:35:15 AM »
Has it been settled yet what may be the reason, if prayer person is Oswald, why he is about 9" lower than the 6'1" Buell W. Frazier?

Has anyone actually gone to Dealey Plaza, set up the same type camera and same location and get some 5'9" person to stand in some way to replicate pray persons image, so we do not have to rely on John Myttons computer perspective as the end all discussion conclusion?

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1595 on: March 28, 2019, 03:38:07 AM »
Has it been settled yet what may be the reason, if prayer person is Oswald, why he is about 9" lower than the 6'1" Buell W. Frazier?

Has anyone actually gone to Dealey Plaza, set up the same type camera and same location and get some 5'9" person to stand in some way to replicate pray persons image, so we do not have to rely on John Myttons computer perspective as the end all discussion conclusion?

The steps are different now.

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