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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1312 on: February 24, 2019, 05:03:55 PM »
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I have not been forced in to any position, I am just stating a simple verifiable fact related to time, and to the possible alternative significance of the meaning of the letter "P" ie, as I said previously, Oswald may have popped out very briefly to view the "Pre-Parade"

   Again, exactly how does a person "WATCH" a period of time?

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Offline Duncan MacRae

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« Reply #1313 on: February 24, 2019, 05:24:07 PM »
Again, exactly how does a person "WATCH" a period of time?

A person can only view the past. Opening ones eyes is the usual method.





   

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« Reply #1314 on: February 24, 2019, 06:06:08 PM »
According to the FBI SA JamesPatrickHostyJr (1924-2011) WarrenCommissionTestimony, he stated that LeeHarveyOswald (1939-1963) said during an interrogation on 11/22/'63, that began at about 3:15pm, that he went to lunch at about noon on 11/22/'63, and went to the lunchroom to have lunch, and ate his lunch, and had gone and gotten a Coca-Cola from the Coca-Cola machine to have with his lunch. He (LHO) claimed that he was in the lunchroom when President Kennedy passed the building.

No need to take my word for it, as said statement can be found in the second-half, at approximately the two-thirds to three-fourths mark of the linked-to testimony:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hosty.htm

According to the linked to FBI Report, FBI SA JamesWillinghamBookhout (1914-2009) stated that during interrogation, LeeHarveyOswald (1939-1963) said that during the TSBD building search by DPD Officers, he had just purchased a Coca-Cola when he had been encountered by a PoliceOfficer, and RoyTruly, on the second floor, and went downstairs after said encounter.

No need to take my word for it, as said statement can be easily found:

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0322a.htm
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1315 on: February 24, 2019, 07:25:52 PM »
The 8 Modes of Denial

1. Hosty had dementia on 11/22/63!

2. The 'P.' in 'P. Parade' doesn't stand for 'Presidential'!

3. Oswald was a liar so it was okay for the authorities to lie about anything he said!

4. Bookhout imitated Hosty's handwriting on these notes!

5. It is wrong to claim cover-up because that means calling people liars!

6. Oswald had a cop put a gun to his gut, then heard that the President had been shot-----so he decided to go outside to watch the... Parade!

7. Oswald musta bought 2 cokes!

8. Who cares where Oswald was standing? Person X once walked the dog of Person Y who once played on a football team with Person Z's second-best friend!

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #1316 on: February 24, 2019, 07:53:46 PM »
"I ran across the street to the corner of the park and ran into a girl crying and she said the President had been shot. This girl's name is Gloria Calvery who is an employee of this building. I went back to the building and went inside and called my wife and told her what happened."
(Bill Shelley, DPD affidavit 11/22)

Mr. SHELLEY - Gloria Calvary from South-Western Publishing Co. ran back up there crying and said "The President has been shot" and Billy Lovelady and myself took off across the street to that little, old island and we stopped there for a minute [...]
Mr. BALL - You went out there and then what did you do?
Mr. SHELLEY - Well, officers started running down to the railroad yards and Billy and I walked down that way.
(Warren Commission testimony, 4/7/64)

(Note: Mr Shelley had been best man at Gloria Calvery's wedding in July '63)

Question!

Why did Mr Shelley change his story?
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Offline Tom Scully

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« Reply #1317 on: February 24, 2019, 08:11:37 PM »
        "Scattered throughout the testimony" is Not Evidence, Documentation, or Corroboration. It is  BS:  I want to follow your point and it ends up being nothing more than an Opinion.

Continuing from my last.... proven fact, OV Campbell first wife, Clarice Marie Webb of a town of less than 8,000, had relatives in common
with Mary Germany Bledsoe.:

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« Reply #1318 on: February 24, 2019, 10:43:47 PM »
Friends, this is what Agent Bookhout's solo-written supplementary report has to say on the score of Mr Oswald's claims:

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home. He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of Bill Shelly, he did not believe that there was going to be anymore work that day due to the confusion in the building.

Let's imagine, shall we, that this represents an accurate account of what Mr Oswald really told Fritz.

So! Mr Oswald is claiming that his reaction to being confronted by an officer "with pistol" drawn in the lunchroom was to go down to the 1st floor-----------but not to check out what was happening out front. Oh no! It was to get down to the important business of standing around eating his lunch. Only then ("thereafter"), once his belly was filled, did it occur to him to go outside to check out what had happened.

You may be thinking, What a crazy claim for Oswald to make! He really was a weirdo! But the real question you need to ask yourself is:

If Mr Oswald really did tell these all-but-self-incriminating things to Captain Fritz, how in the name of all that is righteous could Agent Hosty have 'misheard' or 'misremembered' Mr Oswald's words in such a way that he would feel impelled to twist them into: "Then went outside to watch P. Parade"?

As miscomprehensions or misremembrances go, this one is off the charts!
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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #1319 on: February 24, 2019, 10:55:44 PM »
Friends, this is what Agent Bookhout's solo-written supplementary report has to say on the score of Mr Oswald's claims:

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home. He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of Bill Shelly, he did not believe that there was going to be anymore work that day due to the confusion in the building.

Let's imagine, shall we, that this represents an accurate account of what Mr Oswald really told Fritz.

So! Mr Oswald is claiming that his reaction to being confronted by an officer "with pistol" drawn in the lunchroom was to go down to the 1st floor-----------but not to check out what was happening out front. Oh no! It was to get down to the important business of standing around eating his lunch. Only then ("thereafter"), once his belly was filled, did it occur to him to go outside to check out what had happened.

You may be thinking, What a crazy claim for Oswald to make! He really was a weirdo! But the real question you need to ask yourself is:

If Mr Oswald really did tell these all-but-self-incriminating things to Captain Fritz, how in the name of all that is righteous could Agent Hosty have 'misheard' or 'misremembered' Mr Oswald's words in such a way that he would feel impelled to twist them into: "Then went outside to watch P. Parade"?

As miscomprehensions or misremembrances go, this one is off the charts!

By the same token!

Those who wish to read this-------



--------as being somehow compatible with a 2nd fl lunchroom incident with Baker need to take careful note of the words:

"returned to 1st floor to eat lunch."

To eat lunch? Exactly what Agent Bookhout's later report will have Mr Oswald explain.

Except! Here, Mr Oswald's claim actually makes perfect sense, because
-------------it clearly relates to the period before the motorcade ("Then went outside to watch P. Parade")
-------------it makes no reference whatsoever to any encounter with an officer in the 2nd fl lunchroom (an encounter that would have rendered bizarre Mr Oswald's desire to carry on as though nothing unusual were going on and just press on with his lunch).

Agent Bookhout's solo-written report tries to make a very bad liar out of Mr Oswald; Agent Hosty's notes make a very good liar out of Agent Bookhout.

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