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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1280 on: February 23, 2019, 01:18:31 PM »
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So Thomas J. Kelley lied in his "official report" too, eh Alan?

How many liars are there in this case, Al? Or can you count that high?

Mr von Pein thinks that the way to show there was no cover-up is to argue that a cover-up would have involved things being covered up!  ::)

Mr von Pein is not doing very well here, is he, friends? His response to the new evidence amounts to a cry of, 'Please everyone, be as gullible as I am! Open your hearts to the official story as I have opened mine all these years, and don't let any nasty facts get in the way of your love!'

Now!

Let's talk about lying, shall we?

Here's what Agent Hosty wrote down:



And here's what Agent Hosty told the Warren Commission:

"Oswald told Captain Fritz that he went to lunch at approximately noon on the 22d of November, ate his lunch in the lunchroom, and had gone and gotten a Coca Cola from the Coca Cola machine to have with his lunch."
----------This sentence reflects his handwritten notes!  Thumb1:

"He claimed that he was in the lunchroom at the time President Kennedy passed the building."
----------This sentence does not reflect his handwritten notes! It a straightforward lie.  >:(

Nothing Mr von Pein or any other member of the Lone Nutter Brains Trust says can distract the rest of us from seeing the glaring discrepancy between Agent Hosty's statements.

So----------------Why did Agent Hosty-----------along with Captain Fritz & Co.------------lie about Mr Oswald's answer to the single most important question put to him in interrogation ('Where were you when the President passed the building')?

Answer that question with a measure of good old-fashioned common sense, friends, and you will understand the significance of the Prayer Man figure.  Thumb1:
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Re: Prayer Woman
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1281 on: February 23, 2019, 02:39:26 PM »
Theory!

The so-called 'Hosty notes' that Mr B. Kamp has 'discovered' were not written by Agent Hosty.

Sample A: From Agent Hosty's contemporaneous 11/22 notes:



Sample B: From 'Agent Hosty's' supposed '11/22' notes written on back of DPD affidavit sheet:



Uh oh, look at that 'S'.

Conclusion: Theory dead!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1282 on: February 23, 2019, 02:55:50 PM »
Mr Oswald (Prayer Man) in the Hughes film (make sure your monitor brightness settings are right, friends!), standing
--------------behind Mr Lovelady
--------------right beside Mr Shelley ('out with Bill Shell[e]y in front')



Mr Oswald (Prayer Man) in the Wiegman film



Mr Oswald (Prayer Man) in the Darnell film



The reason he said he went outside to watch the Presidential Parade was that he went outside to watch the Presidential Parade!

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« Reply #1283 on: February 23, 2019, 03:04:54 PM »
Mr Oswald in the Sixth Floor Window:



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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1284 on: February 23, 2019, 03:42:42 PM »
So Thomas J. Kelley lied in his "official report" too, eh Alan?

How many liars are there in this case, Al? Or can you count that high?

     I would ask that You check the date on the Kelley Missive. Supposedly, the interrogation to which Kelley refers occurred on 11/23/63 at 10:30 AM. If we simply accept the 11/23/63 date to also be the date it was compiled, it was still composed almost 24 hours AFTER the Hosty Notes. Kelley would have therefore Known that Oswald had claimed to of been "OUTSIDE" the TSBD "Watching the P. Parade". The Kelley Report could have easily been banged out to refute Oswald's 1st interrogation that SA Hosty attended and recorded on his notes. With the Kelley Report being TYPED, who really knows Exactly when it was Concocted? The Hosty Notes being HAND WRITTEN in Hosty's  short hand scrawl, as well as being Time Stamped in that same scrawl,  carry far More Evidentiary Value than the Kelley typed out Form Letter.   
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1286 on: February 23, 2019, 03:57:17 PM »
The reason he said he went outside to watch the Presidential Parade was that he went outside to watch the Presidential Parade!

"P.Parade" = " Pre - Parade" :)
The hastily written single cursive letter "P" followed by a full stop ".", could stand for the abbreviation "Pre -"

At no time on the notes, as falsely stated regularly by the claimants, is Oswald recorded as using the word "Presidential"

There is no proof by the claimants, that the letter "P" stands for the word "Presidential"

The letter "P" could mean that Oswald is telling them that he was outside for a very short period "Before" the shooting, to view the "Pre - Parade"

"P.Parade" = " Pre - Parade" :)

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« Reply #1287 on: February 23, 2019, 04:27:39 PM »
The hastily written single cursive letter "P" followed by a full stop ".", could stand for the abbreviation "Pre -"

At no time on the notes, as falsely stated regularly by the claimants, is Oswald recorded as using the word "Presidential"

There is no proof by the claimants, that the letter "P" stands for the word "Presidential"

The letter "P" could mean that Oswald is telling them that he was outside for a very short period "Before" the shooting, to view the "Pre - Parade"

"P.Parade" = " Pre - Parade" :)

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        What Hosty Actually scribbled at Oswald's 1st interrogation at 3:15 CST on 11/22/63 Stands.  I can accept that Oswald was possibly lying when he claimed to go "OUTSIDE" the TSBD to "watch the P Parade". The Hosty Notes seriously challenge the Oswald Time Line which has been rubber stamped by many for 55+ years. Do Any of you seriously believe that Oswald made a point of being "OUTSIDE" the TSBD in order to view something called a "PRE" Parade which preceded the "Presidential" Parade? Was a "PRE" Parade listed in ANY newspaper or mentioned on a radio/TV broadcast beforehand? How would Oswald Know of an alleged "PRE" Parade? Have any of You EVER heard of, or actually attended something called a "PRE" Parade? This "PRE" Parade hokum displays the frustration of some who have locked themselves into the previously accepted Oswald time line/ itinerary.   
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