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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #917 on: April 11, 2025, 06:13:40 PM »
Explain what is in her explanation that makes it is a guess. 

You didn’t see her testify. You don’t know what “carried it this way” means. Joseph Ball did see what she was doing, and there’s nothing in what follows to indicate that she did anything with her left hand. Speaking of pure speculation.

Mr. BALL. Let me see. He carried it in his right hand, did he?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right.
Mr. BALL. And where was his hand gripping the middle of the package?
Mrs. RANDLE. No, sir; the top with just a little bit sticking up. You know just like you grab something like that.
Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.

Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #918 on: April 12, 2025, 11:28:05 AM »
You didn’t see her testify. You don’t know what “carried it this way” means. Joseph Ball did see what she was doing, and there’s nothing in what follows to indicate that she did anything with her left hand. Speaking of pure speculation.

Mr. BALL. Let me see. He carried it in his right hand, did he?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right.
Mr. BALL. And where was his hand gripping the middle of the package?
Mrs. RANDLE. No, sir; the top with just a little bit sticking up. You know just like you grab something like that.
Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.

and there’s nothing in what follows to indicate that she did anything with her left hand. Speaking of pure speculation.

As opposed to guessing what Joseph Ball saw and subsequently interpreted from Linnie May can somehow be considered a fact. There are other questions Ball should have elaborated on but did not. He does not ask her how high off the ground was his right hand holding the package and the package subsequently almost touching the ground. Was his hand even with his chin, chest, belly, waist, or below his waist? He does not ask that question either. He does ask the length. That in itself would have put to rest any question as to bag length. So, what does that mean?  He is not interested in the true length of the bag?

 
So, all the questions left unanswered means they were not important?

The quote from Ball looks an awful lot like cherry picking. Another pet peeve of yours. He is just asking her how he was holding the bag with his right hand. Nothing more or less.
 
You may not like what she said but she did say it. Just like Capasee, pretending she did not say what she said and then offer various excuses for her statement about how it was all a mistake. 

It is obviously not convenient that she stated - “and the bottom, he carried it this way” but she did say it and “and the bottom, he carried it this way” does not have a lot of other meanings.

Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #919 on: April 12, 2025, 01:12:34 PM »
and there’s nothing in what follows to indicate that she did anything with her left hand. Speaking of pure speculation.

As opposed to guessing what Joseph Ball saw and subsequently interpreted from Linnie May can somehow be considered a fact. There are other questions Ball should have elaborated on but did not. He does not ask her how high off the ground was his right hand holding the package and the package subsequently almost touching the ground. Was his hand even with his chin, chest, belly, waist, or below his waist? He does not ask that question either. He does ask the length. That in itself would have put to rest any question as to bag length. So, what does that mean?  He is not interested in the true length of the bag?

 
So, all the questions left unanswered means they were not important?

The quote from Ball looks an awful lot like cherry picking. Another pet peeve of yours. He is just asking her how he was holding the bag with his right hand. Nothing more or less.
 
You may not like what she said but she did say it. Just like Capasee, pretending she did not say what she said and then offer various excuses for her statement about how it was all a mistake. 

It is obviously not convenient that she stated - “and the bottom, he carried it this way” but she did say it and “and the bottom, he carried it this way” does not have a lot of other meanings.

 Thumb1: It's too bad she neglected one word in her description: left
« Last Edit: April 12, 2025, 01:13:22 PM by Michael Capasse »

Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #920 on: April 12, 2025, 03:10:38 PM »
Thumb1: It's too bad she neglected one word in her description: left
You may not like what she said but she did say it. Just like Capasee, pretending she did not say what she said and then offer various excuses for her statement about how it was all a mistake.


Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #921 on: April 12, 2025, 04:00:57 PM »
You may not  ike what she said but she did say it. Just like Capasee, pretending she did not say what she said and then offer various excuses for her statement about how it was all a mistake.

I have no problem at all with what she said. You're the one pretending she said something that isn't there.
No mistake. Nothing was corrected by the attorney, or the written report. The witness made no correction.

Mr. BALL. Let me see. He carried it in his right hand, did he?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right
« Last Edit: April 12, 2025, 04:16:27 PM by Michael Capasse »

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« Reply #922 on: April 12, 2025, 04:43:38 PM »
I have no problem at all with what she said. You're the one pretending she said something that isn't there.
No mistake. Nothing was corrected by the attorney, or the written report. The witness made no correction.

Mr. BALL. Let me see. He carried it in his right hand, did he?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right

You forgot this:  “and the bottom, he carried it this way”

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« Reply #923 on: April 12, 2025, 04:47:40 PM »
You forgot this:  “and the bottom, he carried it this way”

It never got corrected....

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Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this...and the bottom....he carried it this way, you know...and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.

Train of thought. No other hand is mentioned.

« Last Edit: April 12, 2025, 05:11:00 PM by Michael Capasse »