Buell Wesley Frazier

[Michael Capasse]

Mr. BALL - All right. When you got in the car did you say anything to him or did he say anything to you?
Mr. FRAZIER - Let's see, when I got in the car I have a kind of habit of glancing over my shoulder and so at that time I noticed there was a package laying on the back seat, I didn't pay too much attention and I said, "What's the package, Lee?"
And he said, "Curtain rods," and I said, "Oh, yes, you told me you was going to bring some today."
That is the reason, the main reason he was going over there that Thursday afternoon when he was to bring back some curtain rods, so I didn't think any more about it when he told me that.

Mr. BALL - Did it look to you as if there was something heavy in the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I will be frank with you, I didn't pay much attention to the package because like I say before and after he told me that it was curtain rods and I didn't pay any attention to it, and he never had lied to me before so I never did have any reason to doubt his word.

Mr. BALL - Well, from the way he carried it, the way he walked, did it appear he was carrying something that had more than the weight of a paper?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, you know like I say, I didn't pay much attention to the package other than I knew he had it under his arm and I didn't pay too much attention the way he was walking because I was walking along there looking at the railroad cars and watching the men on the diesel switch them cars and I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all.

Mr. BALL - You will notice that this bag which is the colored bag, FBI Exhibit No. 10, is folded over. Was it folded over when you saw it the first time, folded over to the end?
Mr. FRAZIER - I will say I am not sure about that, whether it was folded over or not, because, like I say, I didn't pay that much attention to it.

Mr. BALL - But are you sure that his hand was at the end of the package or at the side of the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Like I said, I remember I didn't look at the package very much, paying much attention, but when I did look at it he did have his hands on the package like that.

Mr. BALL - Mr. Frazier, we have here this Exhibit No. 364 which is a sack and in that we have put a dismantled gun. Don't pay any attention to that. Will you stand up here and put this under your arm and then take a hold of it at the side?
Now, is that anywhere near similar to the way that Oswald carried the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, you know, like I said now, I said I didn't pay much attention--

"I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

  *yawn*

But he paid attention to how it was held. Under the armpit. He was sure of that.

Mr. BALL - You say he had the package under his arm when you saw him?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL - You mean one end of it under the armpit?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; he had it up just like you stick it right under your arm like that.

Mr. BALL - And he had the lower part--
Mr. FRAZIER - The other part with his right hand.

Mr. BALL - Right hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.

Mr. BALL - He carried it then parallel to his body?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right, straight up and down.

Representative FORD - Under his right arm?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.

...and the bottom:
Mr. FRAZIER - I didn't pay much attention, but when I did, I say, he had this part down here,
like the bottom would be short he had cupped in his hand like that...".

[John Mytton]

*yawn*

But he paid attention to how it was held. Under the armpit. He was sure of that.

Well that's not what Frazier said!

"I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

Well that's not what Frazier said!

"I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

Mr. BALL - You say he had the package under his arm when you saw him?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL - You mean one end of it under the armpit?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; he had it up just like you stick it right under your arm like that.

Mr. BALL - And he had the lower part--
Mr. FRAZIER - The other part with his right hand.

Mr. BALL - Right hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.

Mr. BALL - He carried it then parallel to his body?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right, straight up and down.

Representative FORD - Under his right arm?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.

[John Mytton]

Mr. BALL - You say he had the package under his arm when you saw him?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL - You mean one end of it under the armpit?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; he had it up just like you stick it right under your arm like that.

Mr. BALL - And he had the lower part--
Mr. FRAZIER - The other part with his right hand.

Mr. BALL - Right hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.

Mr. BALL - He carried it then parallel to his body?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right, straight up and down.

Representative FORD - Under his right arm?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.

You can repeat it a thousand times but it doesn't change the fact that he testified that "I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

You can repeat it a thousand times but it doesn't change the fact that he testified that "I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all."

JohnM

Except it ended under his armpit, too small for the carcano. AND has said that for the last sixty + years.
The bag allegedly found upstairs was not what he saw. In fact, he demonstrated what he saw in a video. 

Mr. FRAZIER - I told them that as far as the length there, I told them that was entirely too long. "...I know that the bag wouldn't be that long. "

[John Mytton]

Except it ended under his armpit, too small for the carcano. AND has said that for the last sixty + years.
The bag allegedly found upstairs was not what he saw. In fact, he demonstrated what he saw in a video. 

Too bad the bag had Oswald's prints on it! Oops!



And in addition to Frazier saying "I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all.". Frazier also testified that he only saw the package from the back so obviously made some assumptions! In the following testimony Frazier is referring to the width of the bag but it doesn't change the fact that all of Frazier's assumptions came from a bag that he didn't pay too much attention to the way it was being carried, and also of vital importance is Oswald started his walk to the depository early and ended up 50 feet away and this is very relevant because Oswald always walked with Frazier. What was Oswald trying to hide?

Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, like I say now, now I couldn't see much of the bag from him walking in front of me. Now he could have had some of it sticking out in front of his hands because I didn't see it from the front, The only time I did see it was from the back, just a little strip running down from your arm...



BTW this means the photo where you show Frazier from the FRONT doesn't reflect reality and is very devious! Naughty naughty!

JohnM

[Jack Nessan]

Randle said: "Oswald gripped the bag in his right hand near the top. "It tapered like this as he hugged it in his hand." WCR page 133

"Mrs. Randle saw the bag fleetingly and her first remembrance is that it was held in Oswald's right hand "and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.'' WCR page 134

Your right Linnie May describes holding it with two hands again:

Randle said: "Oswald gripped the bag in his right hand near the top. "It tapered like this as he hugged it in his hand." WCR page 133

Gripping the bag and then hugging the bag are two different actions.

The bag then tapers and where he then is hugging it in his other hand.

Just like “and the bottom, he carried it this way,”

Pretty hard to escape Mrs Randle’s testimony. 

Mrs. RANDLE  .....“and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it”
Now explain how the bag could only be 27 inches long and LHO carried the bag in this manner.