Buell Wesley Frazier

[Tom Sorensen]

Down the rabbit hole.  Her testimony is posted.  Among other things, Oswald told her that he was going to practice.  Why would Marina lie about that?  It's not really that important to the case against Oswald whether he practiced with the rifle or not.  If she was willing to lie to incriminate him, she would have lied about more important things that she said that she could not confirm.   Again, do you think Oswald purchased a rifle with no intent to ever use it?  A rifle that he was so excited to receive that he insisted that his wife take pictures of him holding it? 

Mr. RANKIN. Could you give us a little help on how you knew?
Mrs. OSWALD. He told me. And he would mention that in passing---it isn't
as if he said, "Well, today I am going"---it wasn't as if he said, "Well, today I am going to take the rifle and go and practice."
But he would say, "Well, today I will take the rifle along for practice."

Ok, so this is the "event" (part of testimony) you refer to, but initially left out, correct?

[Richard Smith]

Ok, so this is the "event" (part of testimony) you refer to, but initially left out, correct?

So many questions but never any answers.  I posted her testimony.  It says exactly what I suggested.  Again, do you think Oswald purchased a rifle, posed with it, but never intended to use it? Is that what you are claiming?  What evidence do have using your own standard to rebut Marina's testimony that he did practice with the rifle?

[Michael Capasse]

Can you tell us what she lied about?

Either can u - and according to Redlich: "...matters which are of vital concern to the people of this country and the world."
I don't trust what she said to the Commission because she under threat of deportation.
One needs to consider the forum in which she is speaking. Also listen to her now ....

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A Statement to the Assassination Records Review Board
from Marina Oswald Porter, September 17, 1996
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"This case has never been OPENED. The twenty-six volumes of the Warren Commission do not support its conclusions. My final conclusion
is that the man--Lee--was not on the sixth floor. We're not even sure about the rifle. According to the local police chief, we never could
put the rifle and the person (Oswald) together. Lee was charged with the crime. They showed him a picture, said this is a rifle, this is
you; he denied it. But they never showed him the weapon for identification. I'm the one who was supposed to identify the rifle,
and I did, believing in the authorities' good intentions . But I was the worst of all. I knew nothing of weapons or guns; I knew nothing."

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[Tom Sorensen]

So many questions but never any answers.  I posted her testimony.  It says exactly what I suggested.  Again, do you think Oswald purchased a rifle, posed with it, but never intended to use it? Is that what you are claiming?  What evidence do have using your own standard to rebut Marina's testimony that he did practice with the rifle?

Naughty Richard, shifting the burden of proof. Just to make sure we're on the same page (see below). The problem is that the rumor originates with Marina. Do you now see the problem with your use of "confirmed"?

confirm
verb
con·​firm kən-ˈfərm
confirmed; confirming; confirms
Synonyms of confirm

transitive verb
1
: to give approval to : ratify
confirm a treaty
2
: to make firm or firmer : strengthen
confirm one's resolve
3
: to administer the rite of confirmation to
4
: to give new assurance of the validity of : remove doubt about by authoritative act or indisputable fact
confirm a rumor
confirm an order

[Richard Smith]

Naughty Richard, shifting the burden of proof. Just to make sure we're on the same page (see below). The problem is that the rumor originates with Marina. Do you now see the problem with your use of "confirmed"?

confirm
verb
con·​firm kən-ˈfərm
confirmed; confirming; confirms
Synonyms of confirm

transitive verb
1
: to give approval to : ratify
confirm a treaty
2
: to make firm or firmer : strengthen
confirm one's resolve
3
: to administer the rite of confirmation to
4
: to give new assurance of the validity of : remove doubt about by authoritative act or indisputable fact
confirm a rumor
confirm an order

We have arrived at the rabbit hole.  We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.  Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.  It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, that he intended to use it.   There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

[John Mytton]

We have arrived at the rabbit hole.  We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.  Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.  It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, that he intended to use it.   There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

Oswald took four bullets to the depository, three shell casings in the sniper's nest and and one bullet still chambered.
As Tom helpfully pointed out, there were no bullets recovered from Oswald's belongings and while Oswald may have purchased four bullets separately which wouldn't even fill a clip, it's much more likely that Oswald purchased at least one box of twenty, therefore Oswald practiced at least with sixteen bullets and took his last four with him to work on the morning of the 22nd.



The original Kleins ad offered 108 rounds for $7.50 but IMO Oswald originally purchased the rifle to assassinate General Walker, an assassination Oswald meticulously planned which occurred about a month after Oswald received his rifle, so I believe penny pinching didn't bother buying so many bullets because he didn't have time to use so many.



JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

"...therefore Oswald practiced at least with sixteen bullets and took his last four with him to work on the morning of the 22nd."

completely made up.

...Oswald originally purchased the rifle to assassinate General Walker, an assassination Oswald meticulously planned which occurred about a month after Oswald received his rifle,

Just like the bag....
Put 2 things together that prove that rifle shot Walker.