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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #280 on: October 14, 2018, 07:10:09 PM »
Hang on a minute. You claimed;

The video shows that Fritz presented Frazier with a written confession to sign early on and got angry when Frazier stood up to him and refused to sign it.

Only after Fritz left (and Frazier said he never saw him again) was Frazier being interrogated for hours!

What I don't understand and you likely can not explain is why would Frazier feel so intimidated during the later interrogation that he lied about the bag, when he had already shown no sign of being intimidated by Fritz?

The video shows that Fritz presented Frazier with a written confession to sign early on and got angry when Frazier stood up to him and refused to sign it.


Yes, that's right.... Unfortunately Frazier's later statement cast a pall over his veracity.....I'm referring to Frazier saying " they would have a "hell of a fight" if Fritz struck him....  That's pure unadulterated Bull stuff.....

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #281 on: October 14, 2018, 09:42:53 PM »


Quote from: Martin Weidmann on October 11, 2018, 03:32:33 PM

First of all, as far as I can recall, nowhere in Frazier's story is there a fist being raised, so I have no idea where you got that bit of information from.


WELL?

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #282 on: October 14, 2018, 10:08:56 PM »
Quote from: Martin Weidmann on October 11, 2018, 03:32:33 PM

First of all, as far as I can recall, nowhere in Frazier's story is there a fist being raised, so I have no idea where you got that bit of information from.


WELL?


Well nothing, Now I recall.

How about you addressing the points I have raised?

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Online Brian Doyle

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« Reply #283 on: October 14, 2018, 10:33:07 PM »
When Duncan provided the source Martin called for in the other thread Martin never answered what he was calling for...

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« Reply #284 on: October 14, 2018, 10:44:35 PM »
Tell us why Rather showing that the 34.8" bag cannot be held in the palm and under the armpit is the only aspect of the Rather bag demo you seem interested in.
By 'you' ...I guess you mean me?
1) I don't know how long the paper sack Rat is holding and neither do you.
2) WBF testified....
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Mr. BALL - When you saw him get out of the car, when you first saw him when he was out of the car before he started to walk, you noticed he had the package under the arm?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - One end of it was under the armpit and the other he had to hold it in his right hand. Did the package extend beyond the right hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir. Like I say if you put it under your armpits and put it down normal to the side.
Mr. BALL - But the right hand on, was it on the end or the side of the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - No; he had it cupped in his hand.
Mr. BALL - Cupped in his hand?
Mr. FRAZIER - Right.
3) So the Rat was off and so are you.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #285 on: October 14, 2018, 11:50:34 PM »
When Duncan provided the source Martin called for in the other thread Martin never answered what he was calling for...

Oh boy, you really must be desperate for a discussion…..

Martin never answered what he was calling for…

What does that even mean?

I asked for a cite for one of your claims and you couldn't provide it.

Duncan did provide it and that answered my query. After that there was nothing to answer on my part.
 

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #286 on: October 15, 2018, 12:56:00 AM »
By 'you' ...I guess you mean me?
1) I don't know how long the paper sack Rat is holding and neither do you.
2) WBF testified....3) So the Rat was off and so are you.

A) You're assuming Buell was telling the truth.

B) You assume that Rather was lying about the size of the demo bag. Rather was 1.78m tall. One can compare the demo bag to Rather's height to confirm the demo bag size.
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« Reply #287 on: October 15, 2018, 01:07:56 AM »
Well nothing, Now I recall.

How about you addressing the points I have raised?

How about you doing some quick 'brush up' research before crafting your answers in such a way as to cast doubt on the veracity of myself and other LNers? I'd be willing to bet that you knew all along about the Fritz physical threat re Buell, and wanted to sanitize that issue in order to minimize my suggestion that Fritz's threat might have alerted Buell to the possibility that he might be in deeper crap than he had expected.

Re the other questions in your post, how about you not misrepresenting what I said?
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« Reply #288 on: October 15, 2018, 03:35:04 AM »
A) You're assuming Buell was telling the truth.

B) You assume that Rather was lying about the size of the demo bag. Rather was 1.78m tall. One can compare the demo bag to Rather's height to confirm the demo bag size.
I say old Chap...I assumed nothing really. I only noted testimony before the Worn Commission. Because the case is 'worn' out. I care nothing about Rather...he lied too.
 Yes Frazier did lie. He lied about the paper bag..the curtain rods.. everything.
 

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #289 on: October 15, 2018, 08:56:22 AM »
How about you doing some quick 'brush up' research before crafting your answers in such a way as to cast doubt on the veracity of myself and other CTers? I'd be willing to bet that you knew all along about the Fritz physical threat re Buell, and wanted to sanitize that issue in order to minimize my suggestion that Fritz's threat might have alerted Buell to the possibility that he might be in deeper crap than he had expected.

Re the other questions in your post, how about you not misrepresenting what I said?

How about you doing some quick 'brush up' research before crafting your answers in such a way as to cast doubt on the veracity of myself and other CTers?

Hang on, the comment I made began with "as far as I can recall"!


First of all, as far as I can recall, nowhere in Frazier's story is there a fist being raised, so I have no idea where you got that bit of information from.


Asking for an explanation or a cite isn't casting doubt on anybody, but the fact that you percieve it to be is very telling. Btw, as far as you go, your contributions to this forum make it abundantly clear that nothing you say can ever be taken at face value.

myself and other CTers

You are a CTer now?

Re the other questions in your post, how about you not misrepresenting what I said?

Pray tell, what did I misrepresent this time? And, even worse, how could I even have misrepresented what you said when I actually quoted your own words in my post?


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« Reply #289 on: October 15, 2018, 08:56:22 AM »