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Online Benjamin Cole

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Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« on: Today at 04:38:12 AM »
Lee Bowers has been mentioned herein, so worth noting----

Lee Bowers herein tells Mark Lane that the latter two shots were very closely spaced, as in "knock-knock" on his table top.


at 5:35

Bowers demonstrates on his table the cadence, with two rapid knocks for the final two shots. This is indisputably Bowers' testimony.

AI: The typical time between two distinct knocks in a standard double knock is about 0.2 to 0.4 seconds (a quick, rhythmic beat).

Bowers' testimony is nearly identical to that Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman, who also remembered the second two shots as nearly simultaneous. As did many other ear-witnesses.

This "bang.....bang-bang" cadence lines with Gov. JBC being shot ~Z295 and JFK at Z-312.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

That happens ~Z-295 or even a few frames later. Hard to tell---but certainly not near near Z-220 or so.

Very hard to square the reports of Bowers, Weitzman and JBC, none of whom seemed to have any axes to grind, all of whom seemed credible, with a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot-per-bolt-action on 11.22. 

IMHO, LHO was involved in the JFKA, and is the best suspect as the TSBD6 sniper.

But no way LHO fired two shots in less than one second, armed with the M-C short rifle. 

I have reasonable doubts, even compelling reservations, about the LNT.
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Online John Corbett

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #1 on: Today at 01:43:45 PM »
Lee Bowers has been mentioned herein, so worth noting----

Lee Bowers herein tells Mark Lane that the latter two shots were very closely spaced, as in "knock-knock" on his table top.


at 5:35

Bowers demonstrates on his table the cadence, with two rapid knocks for the final two shots. This is indisputably Bowers' testimony.

AI: The typical time between two distinct knocks in a standard double knock is about 0.2 to 0.4 seconds (a quick, rhythmic beat).

Bowers' testimony is nearly identical to that Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman, who also remembered the second two shots as nearly simultaneous. As did many other ear-witnesses.

This "bang.....bang-bang" cadence lines with Gov. JBC being shot ~Z295 and JFK at Z-312.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

That happens ~Z-295 or even a few frames later. Hard to tell---but certainly not near near Z-220 or so.

Very hard to square the reports of Bowers, Weitzman and JBC, none of whom seemed to have any axes to grind, all of whom seemed credible, with a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot-per-bolt-action on 11.22. 

IMHO, LHO was involved in the JFKA, and is the best suspect as the TSBD6 sniper.

But no way LHO fired two shots in less than one second, armed with the M-C short rifle. 

I have reasonable doubts, even compelling reservations, about the LNT.

The people who reported two near simultaneous shots at the end in all likelihood were hearing a double sound from the last shot. I have experienced that phenomenon myself. I have a neighbor who sometimes fires a muzzle loading rifle. When he is taking target practice, I sometimes hear a single shot and other times I hear B-BOOM. It seems to depend on where I am standing on my property. It is not possible for a muzzle loader to be fired that rapidly.

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #2 on: Today at 03:41:19 PM »
The "boom" sound from a high-powered rifle is issued from the rifle-barrel, and "crack" sound from the supersonic bullet issued from the rifle, as it passes through air.

AI: Characteristics The Noise: It (a supersonic bullet) sounds like a sharp whip-crack, a snap, or a breaking stick rather than a deep boom

Curiously enough, few (if any) DP witnesses describe hearing "crack" sounds. That is yet another oddity about the JFKA. In theory, many witnesses should less-loud cracking sounds from supersonic bullets, and booms from the M-C rifle. I can't recall any witnesses saying anything like they heard cracking sounds, even vets and police officers.

Bowers only heard three shots. Not a cracking sound and then three booms.

Bower said the last two booms were on top of each other.

Bowers mentioned no change in pitch or volume of the shot noises, which would indicate he heard "crack" and boom sounds.

Bowers testimony lines up with the "bang...bang-bang" cadence many witnesses heard.



 

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #3 on: Today at 04:22:47 PM »
The "boom" sound from a high-powered rifle is issued from the rifle-barrel, and "crack" sound from the supersonic bullet issued from the rifle, as it passes through air.

AI: Characteristics The Noise: It (a supersonic bullet) sounds like a sharp whip-crack, a snap, or a breaking stick rather than a deep boom

Curiously enough, few (if any) DP witnesses describe hearing "crack" sounds. That is yet another oddity about the JFKA. In theory, many witnesses should less-loud cracking sounds from supersonic bullets, and booms from the M-C rifle. I can't recall any witnesses saying anything like they heard cracking sounds, even vets and police officers.

Bowers only heard three shots. Not a cracking sound and then three booms.

Bower said the last two booms were on top of each other.

Bowers mentioned no change in pitch or volume of the shot noises, which would indicate he heard "crack" and boom sounds.

Bowers testimony lines up with the "bang...bang-bang" cadence many witnesses heard.
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It is my belief that witnesses who reported hearing three shots with the last two being right on top of each other heard a double sound from the third shot and didn't recognize the first shot for what it was due to the roar of the accelerating motorcycle escort. I have no way of proving this of course, but it is one way to resolve the seeming conflicting evidence regarding the spacing of the shots.

If two near simultaneous sounds were heard from the third shot, I doubt people would be able to disinguish a boom from a crack. I know I couldn't when I heard the double sound coming from my neighbor's muzzle loader.