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Online Benjamin Cole

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Andrew Iler Cannot Clean Up Education Forum
« on: Yesterday at 04:31:08 PM »
Andrew Iler recently assumed ownership of the the Education Forum-JFKA, and engaged in a partial housecleaning, notably deposing William Niedernut, an overt anti-Semitic crackpot who somehow became a "moderator" with the approval of founder John Simkin.

Niedernut promoted crank theories that Israelis and Jews perped 9.11, intentionally sank the USS Liberty in 1967, and he promoted authors who held that the JFKA and RFKA were Mossad plots. That barely scratches the surface, but you get the idea.

But despite Niedernut's undoing, the "Mossad perped the JFKA narrative" is increasingly common in the EF-JFKA, although that theory is now paired with Mossad perping Watergate too! 

See: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/32198-the-jfk-assassination-and-the-link-with-other-political-conspiracies-1963-2026/page/4/

As of now, Iler appears to fighting a losing battle to create a forum that does not reek of crackpot-ism and rank ethnic biases. It is the nature of CT'er crowds to believe in dark (and sometimes demented) conspiracy theories, giving unto Iler the look of man hand-building sandcastles to fight the tide.

But add on: As of today, one of the "solons" of the EF-JFKA, Douglas Caddy, is citing John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer who went to prison for 30 months after pleading guilty in 2012 to violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act by disclosing the name of a covert CIA officer to a journalist. In other words, Kiriakou ratted out a fellow undercover officer.

Since then Kiriakou has become an asset of the IRGC and Moscow, a Scott Ritter-type, often appearing in Russia's RT propaganda channels, and also lesser US media outlets.

And what does Caddy say that Kiriakou says now?

"The JFK Files Claim Kiriakou states that a person he describes as a close confidant of President Trump told him that 10,000 JFK-related documents 'will never be released' because 'every single one of them points directly at Israel,' and specifically because Kennedy was attempting to prevent Israel from acquiring nuclear weapons."---Doug Caddy.

One of the sources for the Mossad killed JFK narrative, according to Caddy: Times of Islamabad, "Did Israel Kill US President JF Kennedy? Former CIA Official Stunning Claims Over Secret Files," March 26, 2026.

Yes, the Times of Islamabad.

See https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/32298-facebook-post-ex-cia-officer-claims-the-jfk-files-wil-never-see-the-light-of-day/

Good luck to Andrew Iler. Maybe with a few firehoses he can clean up the EF-JFKA.


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Online Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Andrew Iler Cannot Clean Up Education Forum
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 05:15:15 PM »
Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. The environment in the EF-JFKA has improved substantially since Andrew took over. Not once has any moderator censored or removed any of my recent posts criticizing Prouty and the unconditional-withdrawal-after-election theory, nor has any action been taken against the thread I started on the fact that announcing a 1,000-man withdrawal was not JFK's idea and that he was skeptical about the claim that U.S. forces could be withdrawn by the end of 1965.

Cheevers' book Kennedy's Coup really makes clear that JFK's instincts were usually in the right place but that he often succumbed to pressure from his liberal advisers and failed to deal with their insubordination. 

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Andrew Iler Cannot Clean Up Education Forum
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 05:28:58 PM »


In my opinion Israel has to answer for their involvement just like anyone else and anti-semitism baiting doesn't change that...CIA clearly uses Israel as a wedge and that relationship is behind many of the worst black ops since their partnership...Including 9-11...


Iler is just a DiEugenio toady who is enforcing the clique...


The clique is pretending it is enforcing strict rules against me when the real truth is they are making sure I am silenced because they know I refuted the site's pet Prayer Man theory...

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Re: Andrew Iler Cannot Clean Up Education Forum
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 08:06:44 PM »
In my opinion Israel has to answer for their involvement just like anyone else and anti-semitism baiting doesn't change that...CIA clearly uses Israel as a wedge and that relationship is behind many of the worst black ops since their partnership...Including 9-11...

Okay, so you're a far-left wingnut. Got it.


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Re: Andrew Iler Cannot Clean Up Education Forum
« Reply #4 on: Today at 02:36:17 AM »
Okay, so you're a far-left wingnut. Got it.

And you're a far-right wingnut.

JFK assassination forums are wingnut magnets.

Got it?

Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: Andrew Iler Cannot Clean Up Education Forum
« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:39:16 AM »
BD-

People are not guilty until proven innocent. It works the other way around.

You posit Israel "must answer for its involvement" in the JFKA.

Specify that involvement.

Did Mossad work with LHO? Did Mossad put assets on the ground in DP on 11/22? Who? Cite an example.

Was it Mossad who framed LHO with paperwork indicating he bought the M-C rifle? What evidence do you have? Mossad controlled the Dallas Police Dep't? Mossad picked Earl Warren to run the WC and then put Dulles on board?

Did Mossad compel the WC into being? LBJ was only a Tel Aviv lackey? This stretches credulity past the breaking point.

Yes, Mossad worked with James Angleton, CIA'er. So the did the intel agencies of many nations, and even more so, the Vatican.

Angleton liked Israel as a counterweight to Moscow involvement in the Middle East. Israel was more or less a US tool back then, and the Vatican back then was a bulwark against communism, especially in Eastern Europe and Latin America. That hardly implicates the Vatican or Mossad in the JFKA. They were both US-Angleton allies. And solid allies to boot.

OT, but you repeat the rank canard that Mossad was involved in the 9.11 attack on the US. Again, is there the slightest evidence for this?

The 21 skyjackers were Middle East Islamist extremists, with possible links to Saudi Arabia. But you think Mossad was to blame?

The JFKA CT community wonders why it is often considered to be a lot of crackpots.

You might wonder about that.

Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: Andrew Iler Cannot Clean Up Education Forum
« Reply #6 on: Today at 02:41:31 AM »
I said Andrew Iler made improvements.

The EF-JFKA is still too often a sewer for rank ethnic and partisan biases, related juvenalia, and crackpot theories derived therefrom.

I hope Iler ups his game.