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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Reply #126 on: September 29, 2026, 09:41:25 PM »
So you think he's standing upright?  Please explain?

   No, I do Not believe he is standing. I believe we are seeing him from his (L) side as he is running/stumbling toward the (W). What we are seeing is like watching a football player running/stumbling across the TV screen from the R-To-The-L. Instead of carrying a football, Wiegman is grasping his camera. He is moving (W), but at the same time he is looking Back over his (L) shoulder. Not looking where he was going probably is responsible for the stumbling. As the assassination images become clearer, JFK Assassination Urban Legends such as this one are being dismissed
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Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Reply #127 on: September 29, 2026, 11:19:36 PM »
   No, I do Not believe he is standing. I believe we are seeing him from his (L) side as he is running/stumbling toward the (W). What we are seeing is like watching a football player running/stumbling across the TV screen from the R-To-The-L. Instead of carrying a football, Wiegman is grasping his camera. He is moving (W), but at the same time he is looking Back over his (L) shoulder. Not looking where he was going probably is responsible for the stumbling. As the assassination images become clearer, JFK Assassination Urban Legends such as this one are being dismissed

It doesn't matter what you believe.
As I've already proven, for the brief moment we see Weigman in the Bell footage he stays in exactly the same position. He does not move a single inch in any direction. Your constant insistence that he is running/stumbling along in the Bell film is utterly bizarre. As myself, Zeon and Steve have stated, Weigman is sprawled/lying across these steps and it is from this sprawled position that he filmed the Hesters. He is not running or stumbling in any way. He does not move an inch in any direction. You can keep on insisting on this falsehood but it reflects badly on you...to be honest, it's slightly embarrassing.
The close-up Steve posted could not be any clearer:



There is the suggestion he has turned around and is sitting up...nothing more than that. We know from Weigman's actual footage that he has already finished filming the Hesters by the time we see him in the Bell film. We next see him racing down the knoll in Couch and Darnell to where the Newman's are.  The image below is a crop taken from the Couch Film. Weigman is circled red. The blue line shows his movement from position A (where he was filming the hesters while sprawling/lying on the steps) to position B (where he filmed the Newmans).




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Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Reply #128 on: September 29, 2026, 11:39:54 PM »
It doesn't matter what you believe.
As I've already proven, for the brief moment we see Weigman in the Bell footage he stays in exactly the same position. He does not move a single inch in any direction. Your constant insistence that he is running/stumbling along in the Bell film is utterly bizarre. As myself, Zeon and Steve have stated, Weigman is sprawled/lying across these steps and it is from this sprawled position that he filmed the Hesters. He is not running or stumbling in any way. He does not move an inch in any direction. You can keep on insisting on this falsehood but it reflects badly on you...to be honest, it's slightly embarrassing.
The close-up Steve posted could not be any clearer:



There is the suggestion he has turned around and is sitting up...nothing more than that. We know from Weigman's actual footage that he has already finished filming the Hesters by the time we see him in the Bell film. We next see him racing down the knoll in Couch and Darnell to where the Newman's are.  The image below is a crop taken from the Couch Film. Weigman is circled red. The blue line shows his movement from position A (where he was filming the hesters while sprawling/lying on the steps) to position B (where he filmed the Newmans).



Hi Dan,

 I was just watching the SFM copy of Bell that I have, and I tried to post a GIF of just the frames showing Wiegman, but it's too small (just under a second in length) and the GIF program I have won't even accept it since it's so small.  However, I can watch it repeat play on my VLC player, and Wiegman and Mrs. Hester are both just starting to get up at the same, exact time before the clip ends.  I also noticed that the first frame that shows Wiegman, he still has the camera at his eye before he moves it.

 What we need is John Mytton here to work his magic and create a GIF of Wiegman in the Bell film.

I noticed in the Couch film that Wiegman's position is just a few feet from the steps as soon as Couch pans to the left, showing Wiegman running, and from the looks of it, Mr. Hester has rejoined his wife, and is helping her with her shopping bags.  A large white bag, and a smaller brown(?) can be seen moving and the two dark dressed figures with the bags. 

As fast as Wiegman ran from the steps to the base of the knoll, it took him no time to reach where the Newman's are located, as the Couch film reveals.   
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Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Reply #129 on: September 29, 2026, 11:45:42 PM »
   No, I do Not believe he is standing. I believe we are seeing him from his (L) side as he is running/stumbling toward the (W). What we are seeing is like watching a football player running/stumbling across the TV screen from the R-To-The-L. Instead of carrying a football, Wiegman is grasping his camera. He is moving (W), but at the same time he is looking Back over his (L) shoulder. Not looking where he was going probably is responsible for the stumbling. As the assassination images become clearer, JFK Assassination Urban Legends such as this one are being dismissed

 Hi Royell, 

 I noticed that in the segment showing Wiegman lying of the steps is enough to show that he is stationary on the steps. He still had his camera to his eye in the very first Bell film frame he appears in, then brings it away from his eye/face in the next frame.  HE can clearly be seen beginning to rise before Bell stopped filming that sequence, and Mrs. Hester also rises up at the same time as Wiegman shows signs of getting up.
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Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Reply #130 on: Yesterday at 12:11:22 AM »
It doesn't matter what you believe.
As I've already proven, for the brief moment we see Weigman in the Bell footage he stays in exactly the same position. He does not move a single inch in any direction. Your constant insistence that he is running/stumbling along in the Bell film is utterly bizarre. As myself, Zeon and Steve have stated, Weigman is sprawled/lying across these steps and it is from this sprawled position that he filmed the Hesters. He is not running or stumbling in any way. He does not move an inch in any direction. You can keep on insisting on this falsehood but it reflects badly on you...to be honest, it's slightly embarrassing.
The close-up Steve posted could not be any clearer:



There is the suggestion he has turned around and is sitting up...nothing more than that. We know from Weigman's actual footage that he has already finished filming the Hesters by the time we see him in the Bell film. We next see him racing down the knoll in Couch and Darnell to where the Newman's are.  The image below is a crop taken from the Couch Film. Weigman is circled red. The blue line shows his movement from position A (where he was filming the hesters while sprawling/lying on the steps) to position B (where he filmed the Newmans).



      Forget what you have been repeatedly Told/Spoon Fed over the last 62+ years. Draw on your own real life experience. Nobody, repeat Nobody, gets up from the ground and appears like we see Wiegman on the Bell Film. A living Human Body can FALL to the ground like a Cardboard Cutout. A living Human Body can Not RISE from the ground like a Cardboard Cutout.  Did you look at the Morissette Couch Film I referenced earlier? The Couch still frame you posted is substandard to the Morissette Copy. 

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Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Reply #131 on: Yesterday at 01:01:22 AM »
Is it the guy I've circled in yellow?



   Wiegman circled in yellow, is Not getting up from the steps, and he is Not getting up from the ground. Why? Because he is Not a cardboard cutout. A living human body is incapable of rising from the ground as we see on the Bell Film. Just look at the straight line from the top of his hat to his lower torso. What we are seeing is Wiegman running/stumbling/falling toward the (W). Look at the grass below the Bench on the (R). Wiegman is running/stumbling/falling at this same grass level.
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Re: Determining a Timestamp for Darnell
« Reply #132 on: Yesterday at 07:26:17 AM »


Wiegman lying on the steps that lead to the pergola.



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"Wiegman" is definitely lying on the steps, there's a clear shadow under him and in the following GIF, he has not moved forward in relation to the sign.



And at the end he's in the process of getting up!



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