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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #660 on: April 07, 2018, 12:42:43 AM »


Clearly NOT 17 Degrees!!!


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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #661 on: April 14, 2018, 10:00:49 PM »
Like I explained before a 17 degrees angle is not possible!!!

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #662 on: April 16, 2018, 08:49:46 PM »
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Like I explained before a 17 degrees angle is not possible!!!

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #663 on: April 17, 2018, 12:14:40 AM »
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Thank you for your scientific post!!

And now the trajectory back IN TO the snipers nest please


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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #664 on: April 17, 2018, 09:04:10 PM »
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Thank you for your scientific post!!

And now the trajectory back IN TO the snipers nest please


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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #665 on: April 18, 2018, 12:11:53 AM »
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Myers  ;)

To high the trajectory line for a sitting box shot cfm Mr. Frazier FBI.

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« Reply #666 on: April 18, 2018, 05:10:51 AM »
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To high the trajectory line for a sitting box shot cfm Mr. Frazier FBI.

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Not for Dirty Harvey

Your boy would fry
Not unlike his current location

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #667 on: April 18, 2018, 06:17:15 AM »

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Clearly NOT 17 Degrees!!!



In order to get 17 Degrees, you show the exit wound in JFK’s neck as being 38  inches from Connally’s entrance wound in his back:

7.8 / tan(11.4) = 38.7



As I understand it, this horizontal distance is more like 28 inches. Using 28 inches, one gets:

atan(7.8/28.0) = 15.6 degrees.

15.6 degrees is pretty close to 17 degrees.


Clearly NOT 38 inches.





Also, I should note that you did not include the 3 inches difference in height of the seats the two men were sitting in. While Connally was about 1.5 inches taller than JFK, this difference would not only be in the length of their respective torsos. Some would be in their torsos, and some in the legs. So Connally might have a torso that was 0.5 inches longer while his legs may have been 1.0 inches longer. Longer legs would make no difference, only longer torsos.

In any case, between an extra 1.5 inches to 3.0 inches, the math says the angle (with a horizontal distance of 28 inches) is 18.4 to 21.1 degrees. Not 11.4 degrees.



Question:

Should we have more confidence in your drawings of the sniper’s nest, and the angles you show, than your poor calculations of the angle needed by a bullet to cause both the wounds in JFK and Connally?

If so, why?

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #668 on: April 18, 2018, 02:35:13 PM »
Clearly NOT 17 Degrees!!!

It is a comparison from the HSCA sheets, capi?


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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #669 on: April 18, 2018, 05:16:39 PM »
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In order to get 17 Degrees, you show the exit wound in JFK’s neck as being 38  inches from Connally’s entrance wound in his back:

7.8 / tan(11.4) = 38.7



As I understand it, this horizontal distance is more like 28 inches. Using 28 inches, one gets:

atan(7.8/28.0) = 15.6 degrees.

15.6 degrees is pretty close to 17 degrees.


Clearly NOT 38 inches.





Also, I should note that you did not include the 3 inches difference in height of the seats the two men were sitting in. While Connally was about 1.5 inches taller than JFK, this difference would not only be in the length of their respective torsos. Some would be in their torsos, and some in the legs. So Connally might have a torso that was 0.5 inches longer while his legs may have been 1.0 inches longer. Longer legs would make no difference, only longer torsos.

In any case, between an extra 1.5 inches to 3.0 inches, the math says the angle (with a horizontal distance of 28 inches) is 18.4 to 21.1 degrees. Not 11.4 degrees.



Question:

Should we have more confidence in your drawings of the sniper’s nest, and the angles you show, than your poor calculations of the angle needed by a bullet to cause both the wounds in JFK and Connally?

If so, why?


I see that it is more a determination by you than a question.
After 17315 views you are the first to nag about that.
If you can do better why do not show your diagrams.

This obviously speaks volumes.

O wait, sir was not interested in this item and he was too busy ..

Good day Joe.

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #669 on: April 18, 2018, 05:16:39 PM »