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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2018, 05:11:57 PM »
Iím just pointing out, that eyeballing your diagram, the shooter can comfortable fit. He just has to sit normally on the yellow box. And not stick his leg through the yellow box.

It depends on what the distance Paul has marked as "A" is, right?

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2018, 05:18:58 PM »
yea, I think a shooter with an AR15 and shooting 10 shots rapidly, just using the iron sights, could possibly have hit JFK twice, from that cramped boxed 6th floor TSBD SE window. :) ::)

LOL,...Correct Zeon or we add the AT-4 to it, just for the firecracker effect!!!

 
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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2018, 09:31:53 PM »


Yep, the Washington sniper was cramped right up to the Kazoo yet still managed an unbelievable kill count whereas Oswald had as much room as he wanted and could move as needed. In fact you could probably jam the tabernacle choir in there and still have room to do the foxtrot!






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I didn't noticed John that Oswald took a Chevy up to the 6th floor and there was also a ballroom at the 6th.






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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2018, 09:39:35 PM »
But if the first shot was made standing we have other problems.

1. with contradiction in the statements frm. Witnesses like the window opening.
2. The shooter would expose himself above the box barrier.
3. The shell would land at another place then the DPD photo's showing us.

4. Time span to make 3 shots standing and then sitting on a box, reload etc.

6 degrees horz. elevation and around 30-35 degrees vertical elevation.


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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2018, 11:45:14 PM »


The Oswald stand-in, first shot standing trajectory angle 35 degrees approx and horz. 6 degrees.



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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2018, 11:56:07 PM »


The Oswald stand-in, first shot standing trajectory angle 35 degrees approx and horz. 6 degrees.




As a matter of interest in your 2D photo can you use the same principle to calculate the downward angle of the steel support frame?





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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2018, 11:22:20 AM »
Do you realize that that Skyjack is parallel to the TSBD!!!

Has nothing to do in this matter with the shooting angle of the stand-in!

As the shooter turn to follow the limo the Skyjack stays in the same position!!



 :)

BTW it says nothing about the timing of the shots just aiming!!!!!
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Offline Zeon Wasinsky

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2018, 06:27:35 PM »



the trajectory for a headshot from rear, matches closer to the SW side of TSBD than it does to the SE 6th story side of TSBD.

Arnold Rowland saw a gunman at the SW 6th story window of TSBD at 12:15pm, verified by him seeing the roof clock of TSBD. Rowland described the rifle as a hunting type rifle and having a large scope. This  does not quite match an MC rifle, which has a scope closer to the stock, as seen in the Back Yard Photo of Oswald holdng an MC rifle, and has a wooden stock extending much farther than a hunting rifle stock.

Why Amos Euins,and Howard Brennan, much closer eye witnesses at only about 30 yds away, were unable to see any scope, suggests the SE gunman was a 2nd shooter on the 6th floor, with different rifle than what Arnold Rowland saw. And the stacking of boxes in the window, and extending barrel of rifle so far out window, was more to draw attention to the SE window, during the 3 to 4 shot firing sequence, which were heard by one the closest ear witness, Harold Norman, in approx. a 5 sec span of time, judging from Normans video interviews, where he describes the noises  as "boom, clack clack".

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2018, 11:22:12 PM »



the trajectory for a headshot from rear, matches closer to the SW side of TSBD than it does to the SE 6th story side of TSBD.

Arnold Rowland saw a gunman at the SW 6th story window of TSBD at 12:15pm, verified by him seeing the roof clock of TSBD. Rowland described the rifle as a hunting type rifle and having a large scope. This  does not quite match an MC rifle, which has a scope closer to the stock, as seen in the Back Yard Photo of Oswald holdng an MC rifle, and has a wooden stock extending much farther than a hunting rifle stock.

Why Amos Euins,and Howard Brennan, much closer eye witnesses at only about 30 yds away, were unable to see any scope, suggests the SE gunman was a 2nd shooter on the 6th floor, with different rifle than what Arnold Rowland saw. And the stacking of boxes in the window, and extending barrel of rifle so far out window, was more to draw attention to the SE window, during the 3 to 4 shot firing sequence, which were heard by one the closest ear witness, Harold Norman, in approx. a 5 sec span of time, judging from Normans video interviews, where he describes the noises  as "boom, clack clack".

I am still busy with the headshot.

But what you wrote up I am agree almost so far.


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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 11:32:26 PM »
Oswald stuck the barrel out the window to distract witnesses  from the real shooter? It's original. I think.
Now I'm wondering at what point he realised he was being set up.

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Re: The cramped decoy snipernest
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 11:32:26 PM »