Jack Ruby kicks Oswald? And other interesting stuff.

[John Mytton]

• After Jack Ruby shot Oswald, he kicks Oswald either in the head or somewhere in the upper body. Which indicates to me that this wasn't a mob hit, but Ruby was really pissed off with Oswald and in a fit of uncontrollable rage, Ruby suddenly snapped and unleashed on Oswald.

Ruby on the left wearing the hat, steps forward with his right leg and then with all the force he can muster, whacks Oswald with his left foot which drives Oswald's upper torso and head upwards, close to a foot in height.



This full speed GIF of the above, better illustrates Oswald's reaction.



• These two camera operators flinch after hearing shots, these types of vertical flinches are seen in the Zapruder film and working backwards, just after the headshot, then just after the SBF and just before Connally turns his head rapidly to the right, an action that he testified that did.







• The placement of the shells in the Sniper's nest wasn't just random but was a result of how Oswald was tracking his target. The following GIF came from a simulation which accurately placed the 2nd two shots to coincide with the LNers SBF and the headshot and therefore these two shells bounced off the rear boxes and ended up closer to Oswald but the first shot in this recreation was a little early but it still wouldn't change where the furthest bullet ended up.



• Nix filmed the same event as Zapruder(Muchmore and Bronson also captured bits of it as well) which proves beyond all doubt that they are both authentic and there was no Limo stop or whatever the latest fakery fad is, but some critics who have no concept of perspective, lamely point to what they perceive as the differing position of Hill And Jackie on the Limo trunk.

Griffith uses this sole example of his proof of fakery in both Nix and/or Zapruder, yeah I know it's kinda pathetic.



But Jerry Organ who is/was a master of 3D modelling, with a tiny bit of help and direction from me, proved it's just the change in perspective from either side of Dealey Plaza.





• These two morphs that I put together show smooth rotation because they both came from impossible to fake stereoscopic pairs. The first GIF shows Kennedy's left brain hemisphere to be intact and the flap over the right temple as seen in Zapruder. And the second GIF shows the back of Kennedy's head to be intact with a solitary bullet entrance hole where the hair is parted, next to the top of the ruler. Sorry bout that CT's!





JohnM

[Gerry Down]

It's worth noting that Owald's hand was handcuffed to Levealle. So if Levealle lifted up his arm, in an effort to tackle Ruby, it would have dragged Oswald's arm and torso upwards.

[John Mytton]

It's worth noting that Owald's hand was handcuffed to Levealle. So if Levealle lifted up his arm, in an effort to tackle Ruby, it would have dragged Oswald's arm and torso upwards.

Thanks Jerry, I grabbed a better copy and I think you're right.
It seems like the car lightly strikes Ruby? and his left leg stumbles as it moves forward but regardless it looks like Oswald's head is jerked upwards before Ruby's left shoe gets close to Oswald and maybe makes contact? Anyway, it's way, way past my bedtime and I'll have another look later.

Here's some more better quality GIF's of Ruby's full figure of what should be regular speed but seems slightly sped up? and half speed. And there's also the same again but just focused on the relevant part.






Full frame.



JohnM

[Steve M. Galbraith]

John: Just one on the startle response.

Wouldn't Zapruder have remembered the *cause* of those three responses? He said he heard only two shots not three. All of us have been startled by some loud noise: a clap of thunder outside, the backfire of a car, someone dropping and breaking a plate. We jumped the sound. And we remember why we jumped and that something that caused it. But Zapruder only remembers two *causes* for his three jumps?

Granted, if we combine the startle response of the film plus the other evidence we can make a reasonable argument for three shots. And he filmed them all. But there's a gap when it comes to Zapruder.

[John Mytton]

John: Just one on the startle response.

Wouldn't Zapruder have remembered the *cause* of those three responses? He said he heard only two shots not three. All of us have been startled by some loud noise: a clap of thunder outside, the backfire of a car, someone dropping and breaking a plate. We jumped the sound. And we remember why we jumped and that something that caused it. But Zapruder only remembers two *causes* for his three jumps?

Granted, if we combine the startle response of the film plus the other evidence we can make a reasonable argument for three shots. And he filmed them all. But there's a gap when it comes to Zapruder.

??

Mr. LIEBELER - Tell us what happened as you took these pictures.
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Well, as the car came in line almost--I believe it was almost in line. I was standing up here and I was shooting through a telephoto lens, which is a zoom lens and as it reached about--I imagine it was around here--I heard the first shot and I saw the President lean over and grab himself like this (holding his left chest area).
Mr. LIEBELER - Grab himself on the front of his chest?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Right---something like that. In other words, he was sitting like this and waving and then after the shot he just went like that.
Mr. LIEBELER - He was sitting upright in the car and you heard the shot and you saw the President slump over?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Leaning--leaning toward the side of Jacqueline. For a moment I thought it was, you know, like you say, "Oh, he got me," when you hear a shot--you've heard these expressions and then I saw---I don't believe the President is going to make jokes like this, but before I had a chance to organize my mind, I heard a second shot and then I saw his head opened up and the blood and everything came out and I started--I can hardly talk about it [ the witness crying].
Mr. LIEBELER - That's all right, Mr. Zapruder, would you like a drink of water? Why don't you step out and have a drink of water?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - I'm sorry--I'm ashamed of myself really, but I couldn't help it.
Mr. LIEBELER - Nobody should ever be ashamed of feeling that way, Mr. Zapruder. I feel the same way myself. It was a terrible thing.
Let me go back now for just a moment and ask you how many shots you heard altogether.
Mr. ZAPRUDER - I thought I heard two, it could be three, because to my estimation I thought he was hit on the second--I really don't know. The whole thing that has been transpiring--it was very upsetting and as you see I got a little better all the time and this came up again and it to me looked like the second shot, but I don't know. I never even heard a third shot.
Mr. LIEBELER - You didn't hear any shot after you saw him hit?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - I heard the second--after the first shot--I saw him leaning over and after the second shot--it's possible after what I saw, you know, then I started yelling, "They killed him, they killed him," and I just felt that somebody had ganged up on him and I was still shooting the pictures until he got under the underpass--I don't even know how I did it. And then, I didn't even remember how I got down from that abutment there, but there I was, I guess, and I was walking toward--back toward my office and screaming, "They killed him, they killed him," and the people that I met on the way didn't even know what happened and they kept yelling, "What happened, what happened, what happened?" It seemed that they had heard a shot but they didn't know exactly what had happened as the car sped away, and I kept on just yelling, "They killed him, they killed him, they killed him," and finally got to my office and my secretary--I told her to call the police or the Secret Service--I don't know what she was doing, and that's about all. I was very much upset. Naturally, I couldn't imagine such a thing being done. I just went to my desk and stopped there until the police came and then we were required to get a place to develop the films. I knew I had something, I figured it might be of some help--I didn't know what.
As to what happened--I remember the police were running behind me. There were police running right behind me. Of course, they didn't realize yet, I guess, where the shot came from--that it came from that height.
https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/zapruder.htm



JohnM

[Zeon Mason]

To do the   shooting in front of the cameras, Ruby must have really been upset.

Why did Ruby go  before cameras and say it’s people in high places and we will never know the truth?

He changed it  later to the “He was just angry” story.  So if his original statement was a ploy to gain some plea bargain leverage, he sure screwed himself it seems.

UNLESS… Ruby was promised a deal in exchange for changing his statement , after which they killed him in prison with an injection and created false documents that he had cancer and died of pneumonia.

I hate being suspicious but somebody has to keep up the CT side of the spectrum on this forum since most of them are over at that other forum.

[Gerry Down]

Thanks Jerry, I grabbed a better copy and I think you're right.
It seems like the car lightly strikes Ruby? and his left leg stumbles as it moves forward but regardless it looks like Oswald's head is jerked upwards before Ruby's left shoe gets close to Oswald and maybe makes contact? Anyway, it's way, way past my bedtime and I'll have another look later.

Here's some more better quality GIF's of Ruby's full figure of what should be regular speed but seems slightly sped up? and half speed. And there's also the same again but just focused on the relevant part.






Full frame.



JohnM

From these GIFS, its clear Rubys left foot stays in contact with the ground almost all of the time.