Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272

[Andrew Mason]

When people are looking at a famous person in a parade, they don't look at the person sideways, the turn their face directly towards them.

So, where can you see her face to know where it is directly turned toward?  Are you assuming that her head and hood must be facing in the same direction? If so, why?

[Andrew Mason]

A reasonable observation. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity for most people in Dealey Plaza to see Jack and Jackie up close. Who is going to look at them in their peripheral vision? But Andrew is so desperate to save his silly theory that he'll come up with anything.

I am not suggesting that she is looking at JFK. You are saying she has to be looking where her hood is facing, which may be the QM or the VP car.  I am just saying I don't know where she is looking because I can't see her face. 

When she turns her hood and head at z202, she can't be looking at JFK.  But I still can't tell where she is looking so I have to defer to the evidence.  She said that when she stopped running she turned and looked at the roof of the TSBD and saw pigeons flying away from it. That fits with the position of her head at z202-206. 

[John Corbett]

I am not suggesting that she is looking at JFK. You are saying she has to be looking where her hood is facing, which may be the QM or the VP car.  I am just saying I don't know where she is looking because I can't see her face. 

When she turns her hood and head at z202, she can't be looking at JFK.  But I still can't tell where she is looking so I have to defer to the evidence.  She said that when she stopped running she turned and looked at the roof of the TSBD and saw pigeons flying away from it. That fits with the position of her head at z202-206.

Your problem is you lack common sense. I don't know how I can help you out there.

[Tom Graves]

Your problem is you lack common sense. I don't know how I can help you out there.

He can't be helped.

He's been zombified.

[Andrew Mason]

Your problem is you lack common sense. I don't know how I can help you out there.

It is common sense to base conclusions on the evidence. It is common sense that one should guard against making conclusions that conflict with the evidence based upon what they think is happening in equivocal parts of the Zapruder film.  Your spidey sense of why people are turning their heads in the zfilm is not evidence and is certainly not common sense.

[John Corbett]

It is common sense to base conclusions on the evidence. It is common sense that one should guard against making conclusions that conflict with the evidence based upon what they think is happening in equivocal parts of the Zapruder film.  Your spidey sense of why people are turning their heads in the zfilm is not evidence and is certainly not common sense.

JBC told us why he turned his head. I stated Rosemury Willis turned back to the TSBD because we see her do that and years later said she saw pigeons fly off the roof. It is a logical inference that the reason she turned back to the TSBD is because that's where the sound seemed to come from.
 

[Andrew Mason]

JBC told us why he turned his head. I stated Rosemury Willis turned back to the TSBD because we see her do that and years later said she saw pigeons fly off the roof. It is a logical inference that the reason she turned back to the TSBD is because that's where the sound seemed to come from.

JBC said he turned to look at JFK.  He doesn’t even try to look at JFK before z230.  So your conclusion that this turn occurred before z230 is not based on evidence.

Rosemary turns back at z202-206.  That suggests the first shot just before then, just as her sister, father, Croft and Betzner, the 25 witnesses who reported seeing JFK react to the first shot said.  That’s the evidence that the correct interpretation of the zfilm should fit.