The Brown Paper Bag

[Martin Weidmann]

So says the Legal layman, a couple of posts ago you completely embarrassed yourself with your clear lack of knowledge regarding the law, so why stop there, eh?

BTW exactly what "circumstantial evidence" in this case do you think you can destroy?

JohnM

Coming from a pathetic loser who always reverts to personal attacks when he can't win an argument, this is funny!

Then he makes it worse by basically claiming that circumstantial evidence presented by a prosecutor would be enough to sway a jury, regardless of what the defence has presented.

And then the idiot calls me a "legal layman"..... Hilarious!

[Martin Weidmann]

It is truly amazing how LN nuts like Graves and Mytton are completely unable to provide a solid argument in support of a particular piece of evidence, yet write post after post about anything except the evidence and the actual case.

Hmmmm... could that be because they know they have nothing more to offer except what they believe without being unable to explain or defend it?

[Tom Graves]

It is truly amazing how LN nuts like Graves and Mytton are completely unable to provide a solid argument in support of a particular piece of evidence, yet write post after post about anything except the evidence and the actual case.

Hmmmm... could that be because they know they have nothing more to offer except what they believe without being unable to explain or defend it?

Dear Martin,

Why are you such a jerk?

-- Tom

[Martin Weidmann]

Dear Martin,

Why are you such a jerk?

-- Tom

I guess it rubs off when I'm dealing with jerks.

I'm actually quite nice, when people treat me in a similar way.

Now why are you such a jerk?

[John Mytton]

The bag was made from TSBD materials and found on the sixth floor.

And this random bag with Oswald's prints was made to perfectly fit the rifle. OOPS!



JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

And this random bag with Oswald's prints was made to perfectly fit the rifle. OOPS!



JohnM

It just didn't fit between the cup of Oswald's hand and his shoulder.... OOPS!

[John Mytton]

It just didn't fit between the cup of Oswald's hand and his shoulder.... OOPS!

Too bad that Frazier testified that he never payed much attention to Oswald's rifle bag. Try again! Hehehe!

Mr. BALL - All right. When you got in the car did you say anything to him or did he say anything to you?
Mr. FRAZIER - Let's see, when I got in the car I have a kind of habit of glancing over my shoulder and so at that time I noticed there was a package laying on the back seat, I didn't pay too much attention and I said, "What's the package, Lee?"
And he said, "Curtain rods," and I said, "Oh, yes, you told me you was going to bring some today."
That is the reason, the main reason he was going over there that Thursday afternoon when he was to bring back some curtain rods, so I didn't think any more about it when he told me that.

Mr. BALL - Did it look to you as if there was something heavy in the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I will be frank with you, I didn't pay much attention to the package because like I say before and after he told me that it was curtain rods and I didn't pay any attention to it, and he never had lied to me before so I never did have any reason to doubt his word.

Mr. BALL - Well, from the way he carried it, the way he walked, did it appear he was carrying something that had more than the weight of a paper?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, you know like I say, I didn't pay much attention to the package other than I knew he had it under his arm and I didn't pay too much attention the way he was walking because I was walking along there looking at the railroad cars and watching the men on the diesel switch them cars and I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all.

Mr. BALL - You will notice that this bag which is the colored bag, FBI Exhibit No. 10, is folded over. Was it folded over when you saw it the first time, folded over to the end?
Mr. FRAZIER - I will say I am not sure about that, whether it was folded over or not, because, like I say, I didn't pay that much attention to it.

Mr. BALL - But are you sure that his hand was at the end of the package or at the side of the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Like I said, I remember I didn't look at the package very much, paying much attention, but when I did look at it he did have his hands on the package like that.

Mr. BALL - Mr. Frazier, we have here this Exhibit No. 364 which is a sack and in that we have put a dismantled gun. Don't pay any attention to that. Will you stand up here and put this under your arm and then take a hold of it at the side?
Now, is that anywhere near similar to the way that Oswald carried the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, you know, like I said now, I said I didn't pay much attention--

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

Too bad that Frazier testified that he never payed much attention to the Oswald's rifle bag. Try again! Hehehe!

Mr. BALL - All right. When you got in the car did you say anything to him or did he say anything to you?
Mr. FRAZIER - Let's see, when I got in the car I have a kind of habit of glancing over my shoulder and so at that time I noticed there was a package laying on the back seat, I didn't pay too much attention and I said, "What's the package, Lee?"
And he said, "Curtain rods," and I said, "Oh, yes, you told me you was going to bring some today."
That is the reason, the main reason he was going over there that Thursday afternoon when he was to bring back some curtain rods, so I didn't think any more about it when he told me that.

Mr. BALL - Did it look to you as if there was something heavy in the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I will be frank with you, I didn't pay much attention to the package because like I say before and after he told me that it was curtain rods and I didn't pay any attention to it, and he never had lied to me before so I never did have any reason to doubt his word.

Mr. BALL - Well, from the way he carried it, the way he walked, did it appear he was carrying something that had more than the weight of a paper?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, you know like I say, I didn't pay much attention to the package other than I knew he had it under his arm and I didn't pay too much attention the way he was walking because I was walking along there looking at the railroad cars and watching the men on the diesel switch them cars and I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all.

Mr. BALL - You will notice that this bag which is the colored bag, FBI Exhibit No. 10, is folded over. Was it folded over when you saw it the first time, folded over to the end?
Mr. FRAZIER - I will say I am not sure about that, whether it was folded over or not, because, like I say, I didn't pay that much attention to it.

Mr. BALL - But are you sure that his hand was at the end of the package or at the side of the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Like I said, I remember I didn't look at the package very much, paying much attention, but when I did look at it he did have his hands on the package like that.

Mr. BALL - Mr. Frazier, we have here this Exhibit No. 364 which is a sack and in that we have put a dismantled gun. Don't pay any attention to that. Will you stand up here and put this under your arm and then take a hold of it at the side?
Now, is that anywhere near similar to the way that Oswald carried the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, you know, like I said now, I said I didn't pay much attention--

JohnM

Too bad that Frazier testified that he never payed much attention to the Oswald's rifle bag. Try again! Hehehe!

You don't have to pay much attention to a package to see how somebody carried it.

Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, you know like I say, I didn't pay much attention to the package other than I knew he had it under his arm

But you are repeating yourself. You've already used this argument and it didn't work back then, so why do you think repeating it would work?

Be original and try something new!