The Brown Paper Bag

[John Corbett]

My original post.

Welcome to the World Of Martin Weidmann, until recently I hadn't had any many major interactions with old Weidy because he got tedious and kept using these bizarre tactics like misinterpretations of the evidence, outright lies, BS personal anecdotes and the wall of insults and now in my short time debating him again, he's pulled all of his old tricks out of the bag. I thought he'd mellow in his old age but if anything he's more angry and belligerent

Whenever he gets really angry he plays the "ego" card and a member here Lance Payette, a lawyer, very quickly discovered Old Weidy was using sock puppet accounts and these sock puppet accounts would use all the same tactics in addition to giving thumbs up emojis to his posts, it became a running joke. Years ago Bill Brown and myself independently exposed Old Weidy using a sock puppet account named "Roger Collins" who would use the exact same sentence structure, same anger issues, same peculiar ideas and the excessive use of supporting each others posts. Over the years Old Weidy introduced many of these accounts and these newbies would immediately have a vile attitude towards Old Weidy's enemy's, but we didn't bother exposing him and just exchanged PM's having a good ole laugh. LOL!

In the very entertaining "Sock Puppet" thread the following exchange highlights Lance exposing a very sad old man.

JohnM

I've been dealing with JFKA conspiracy crowd for 35 years now and I've just about seen it all. Generally, I don't get POed by them. For example, I find Benjamin Cole to be a bit misguided but he is respectful and seems sincere in his beliefs. I try to respond in kind. The exception is when they resort to outright lying like Weidmann did with his claim that Lt. Day went into panic mode upon learning that Frazier passed his polygraph. I pressed him on supporting that claim several times and he refused to provide a source to back up his claim. Finally, he produced a letter that didn't even remotely suggest Day had reacted anything like what he had claimed. IOW, he completely made up the part about Day going into panic mode. Whenever I catch a conspiracy hobbyist in a bald-faced lie, I have to remind myself to calm down. It's not worth getting upset over it. It's question of mind over matter. If I don't mind, they sure as hell don't matter.

[John Corbett]

My original post.

Welcome to the World Of Martin Weidmann, until recently I hadn't had any many major interactions with old Weidy because he got tedious and kept using these bizarre tactics like misinterpretations of the evidence, outright lies, BS personal anecdotes and the wall of insults and now in my short time debating him again, he's pulled all of his old tricks out of the bag. I thought he'd mellow in his old age but if anything he's more angry and belligerent

Whenever he gets really angry he plays the "ego" card and a member here Lance Payette, a lawyer, very quickly discovered Old Weidy was using sock puppet accounts and these sock puppet accounts would use all the same tactics in addition to giving thumbs up emojis to his posts, it became a running joke. Years ago Bill Brown and myself independently exposed Old Weidy using a sock puppet account named "Roger Collins" who would use the exact same sentence structure, same anger issues, same peculiar ideas and the excessive use of supporting each others posts. Over the years Old Weidy introduced many of these accounts and these newbies would immediately have a vile attitude towards Old Weidy's enemy's, but we didn't bother exposing him and just exchanged PM's having a good ole laugh. LOL!

In the very entertaining "Sock Puppet" thread the following exchange highlights Lance exposing a very sad old man.

JohnM

I'd forgotten about the sock puppet ploy. We had a guy on John McAdams old forum who was famous for that. I think his handle was Bob Harris and he made most of his arguments under that name. He is one of the few CTs who actually accepts the SBT but his pet theory was there was a missed shot fired at Z285 which would have made it impossible for Oswald to have fired that shot and the kill shot. He had several sock puppets but his favorite was some guy purported to be from Sweden or Norway who would post just to cheer Bob on and tell him how brilliant he was. He wasn't fooling anyone, not even his fellow CTs. Tony Marsh would get especially angry at him because he thought Bob was embarrassing the other CTs, as if they needed any help in doing that.

They tell me that Bob would bounce around among forums. He'd stick around until he was either banned or verbally beaten up on one forum and then move on to another to bore them for a while. He was never banned from our group but he would disappear for months at a time and then reappear out of nowhere.

[John Corbett]

This is what happens when you have a pathetic life. You start collection and storing, for many years, posts written by users on a public forum, in the stupid belief that you can use those posts in the future. What kind of a weirdo does that?

Funny thing is that I never bothered to respond to any of the BS posted by Payette because I understood it wouldn't make a damned bit of difference if I did.
I do recall asking Duncan to check my IP and find out how many accounts were connected to it, but he never did. He did however put Payette in his place when he falsely claimed that another user and I were the same person. So he had to eat humble pie when Duncan told them the two people were in fact two people!

I kinda feel sorry for Mytton. I've been living rent free in his head for years and his obsession with me is getting totally out of control. I think it's best to let him be with his delusions and ignore the BS he writes. Perhaps that way he'll calm down, although I somehow doubt it.

Anyway, for me it's back to the JFK debate, so that little Johnny can desperately try to convince others and fail miserably, because history shows, except for a few crazy LNs nobody cares!

Hey, Marty. When you are forced to lie about the evidence, doesn't it make you at least question your beliefs. After all, if the evidence actually shows what you claim it does, why do you have to embellish (a kind word) the evidence to make your points. If I couldn't make an argument without lying about the evidence, I sure as hell would have to question what I believe. Why did you find it necessary to claim Lt. Day went into panic mode over Frazier passing his polygraph. I can't remember if it was you or Michael Capasse who told me Oswald's palm print was on the middle of the bag not the bottom as I had stated. That didn't sound right to me but because I hadn't discussed that aspect for at least five years, I let that claim go unchallenged. Just yesterday, I went back to the WCR and discovered I had been right all along. The palm print was on the bottom of the bag, just where we would expect it to be if the bag contained a weighty object and Oswald carried it cupped in his hand as Frazier had described. Was it you who stated Oswald's palm print was in the middle of the bag? If so, why did you feel the need to lie about it. If it was Capasse, I have to ask. Is he one of your sock puppets?

[John Corbett]

Hey dumb ass... I did indeed have pizza with Buell Frazier last November.

Did you? All we have is your word for it and that's not worth much.

His word is certainly worth more than yours. I could say that about pretty much every other poster I've seen on this forum in the few months I have participated in it.

[Martin Weidmann]

It seems now there are two Johns in whose head I live rent free. Or is it perhaps one... I lose track sometimes.

Gotta love it 

[John Mytton]

Funny thing is that I never bothered to respond to any of the BS posted by Payette because I understood it wouldn't make a damned bit of difference if I did.

Are you joking, you made 50 posts in that thread, and you're the reason the thread went for 18 pages, because you desperately tried to clear your name but the more you squirmed the more evidence was piled on, and then to save face you disappeared not long after for months and months. And in your absence there was no CT's with anger issues, fancy that, what a coincidence! Hahaha!

JohnM

[John Corbett]

It seems now there are two Johns in whose head I live rent free. Or is it perhaps one... I lose track sometimes.

Gotta love it 

Maybe you haven't figured this out but the only useful purpose you serve here is for comic relief.