Podcast On Tippit

[John Corbett]

My guess is that Helen Markham very likely timed it so that she would be at the Jefferson & Patton bus stop at approximately 1:15 every day, and she would (of course) then catch the next bus to come by that was going downtown (whenever that was, at 1:22, or 1:26, whenever). That way, she would be a little early to catch the next bus. Makes sense to me anyway.

I agree, that's the most likely scenario. Buses seldom run on exactly the time of their schedule. But Markham indicated that she would be at the bus stop at 1.15 and she would then just wait for the next bus to show up.

But that doesn't answer the question I asked Bill Brown. For Markham to get to the bus stop at 1.15 (regardles which bus she took, a delayed 1.12 or the 1.122) she still needed to walk two blocks in about five to six minutes to get there. So, she would have left 9th street at around 1.09 or 1.10 and get to 10th and Patton at about 1.13. According to Dale Myers, Tippit was shot at 1.14.30, so are we really to believe that Markham just stood around at the intersection of 10th and Patton for two minutes or so and likely risk (in her perception) missing her bus to work?
That doesn't make sense at all.

We don't have time stamps for any event related to the Tippit shooting until a citizen radioed in the report from Tippit's cruiser. Every other event is based on ESTIMATED times. You cannot do precise calculations if you don't start with precise figures.

[John Mytton]

Oh boy. Those elastic sections are in just about every jacket of that type. I have two windbreaker type jackets that have exactly the same elastic sections at the same place. No big deal. But what the photos do show (and Johnny simply ignores) is that the sleeves of the white jacket are far larger that the one's on Oswald's grey jacket. So much for similarity! You just see what you want to see.

But what the photos do show (and Johnny simply ignores) is that the sleeves of the white jacket are far larger that the one's on Oswald's grey jacket.

Sure Oswald was a Gorilla, Hilarious!

I have two windbreaker type jackets that have exactly the same elastic sections at the same place. No big deal.

Wow, in 2026, you claim to own two of that type of jacket, please take a photo of the two jackets and show us the two elastic gathered sections on the back and I hope they're a light grey/beige shade! Then post them in this thread. Waiting....Zzzzzz...

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

We don't have time stamps for any event related to the Tippit shooting until a citizen radioed in the report from Tippit's cruiser. Every other event is based on ESTIMATED times. You cannot do precise calculations if you don't start with precise figures.

So, Markham just missed he bus on a daily basis?

If you wan't to be considered to be serious, than act serious and cut of the crap. There is nothing reliable about the time stamps on the DPD radio. The chief on the dispatcher said it himself, you can not rely on the time stamps to get accurate times.

[Martin Weidmann]

Hahahaha! Gotcha, Frazier your star witness with the photographic memory had never seen CE163 ever before and don't forget that Frazier sat right next to Oswald for about half an hour on the way to work! And you expect Frazier to remember Oswald in the five or so minutes they walked from the car to the loading dock, where Oswald ended up about 50 feet away??



Mr. BALL - I have here Commission's 163, a gray blue jacket. Do you recognize this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald wear this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't believe I have.

 

JohnM

How delusional are you? I know what Frazier said in his testimony.

So, how did CE 163 end up being found at the Domino room of the TSBD?

And have you figured out already how Oswald's grey jacket CE 162 could have ended up at the rooming house at Friday 1 PM, if Oswald had worn it to the TSBD in the morning and left the TSBD without a jacket.?

I've always known you were not the sharpest knife in the draw, but this beats it all.

[John Mytton]

How delusional are you? I know what Frazier said in his testimony.

So, how did CE 163 end up being found at the Domino room of the TSBD?

And have you figured out already how Oswald's grey jacket CE 162 could have ended up at the rooming house at Friday 1 PM, if Oswald had worn it to the TSBD in the morning and left the TSBD without a jacket.?

I've always known you were not the sharpest knife in the draw, but this beats it all.

How delusional are you? I know what Frazier said in his testimony.

Obviously, not that well.

So, how did CE 163 end up being found at the Domino room of the TSBD?

Oswald put it there.

And have you figured out already how Oswald's grey jacket CE 162 could have ended up at the rooming house at Friday 1 PM, if Oswald had worn it to the TSBD in the morning and left the TSBD without a jacket.?

You can't be this thick?? Oswald clearly wore the dark jacket but Frazier didn't even notice, yet as I said "your star witness with the photographic memory had never seen CE163 ever before", even though he sat right next to him for the half hour trip from Irving, but you expect him to remember some insignificant action with precise detail. Did your Mother drop you on your head when you were a baby?



Mr. BALL - I have here Commission's 163, a gray blue jacket. Do you recognize this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald wear this jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; I don't believe I have.

 

I've always known you were not the sharpest knife in the draw, but this beats it all.

Before you go balls to the walls, take a second or two to read and comprehend what's written, so you can be less of an embarrasment, otherwise you'll fall into another one of my traps. Muhahaha.

BTW, how are those jacket photos coming along?
Because I believe you I really do, Oswald's jacket was clearly mass produced and there must be at least hundreds out there, but there was also millions and millions of jackets produced and the problem here is a simple case of probability, for your killer to possess and discard a virtually identical jacket in a carpark that a jacketed Oswald was also seen entering, is pretty far fetched.

Oswald arrested without his jacket. Where did it go?


JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

Sure Oswald was a Gorilla, Hilarious!

Wow, in 2026, you claim to own two of that type of jacket, please take a photo of the two jackets and show us the two elastic gathered sections on the back and I hope they're a light grey/beige shade! Then post them in this thread. Waiting....Zzzzzz...

JohnM

Sure Oswald was a Gorilla, Hilarious!

No he wasn't. That's why it is likely or possible that the white jacket found at the car park wasn't his.

Wow, in 2026, you claim to own two of that type of jacket, please take a photo of the two jackets and show us the two elastic gathered sections on the back and I hope they're a light grey/beige shade! Then post them in this thread. Waiting....Zzzzzz...

Hilarious. Who do you think you are?

You make one idiotic claim after another and never present a shred of evidence.

I'm not going to do a damned thing until you have explained how Oswald could have picked up CE 162 (the light grey jacket) at the rooming house, when he, as you claimed was wearing that same jacket to the TSBD on Friday morning and left the TSBD without wearing a jacket.

[Martin Weidmann]

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[Martin Weidmann]

So, Markham just missed he bus on a daily basis?

If you wan't to be considered to be serious, than act serious and cut the crap. There is nothing reliable about the time stamps on the DPD radio. The chief on the dispatcher said it himself, you can not rely on the time stamps to get accurate times.