Zapruder disproves Brugionis 2-3 frame headshot claim

[Royell Storing]

  Between the car moving out from under the mist, and the wind gusts being up to 25 MPH, the mist isn't moving backwards because of a frontal shot.  All spray and head matter went upward, forward and down (some of it some 25 feet in front of the limousine which were later recovered by 3 separate people-Burros, Weitzman and Harper) and the mist and lighter matter went back and down. Some of which landed on the trunk lid, Bobby Hargis, B.J. Martin and Clint Hill.

   The direction of blood/brain matter spray aside, I have always had an issue with the continuous lack of speed displayed by the JFK Limo. ASAIC Kellerman described the JFK Limo acceleration as, "jumping out of the god damn street" following the kill shot. We see absolutely nothing remotely resembling that sudden acceleration immediately following the kill shot. SA Clint Hill was able to run the car down and then scale the trunk. And Jackie is also crawling around back there without being tossed around due to any sudden acceleration of the car. Backing up the SA Kellerman description, we do see the JFK Limo blowing past the Lead Car as both vehicles go under the Triple Underpass. The images we are seeing are consistently inconsistent.

[Gerry Down]

You can see the cloud of mist expand and dissipating in the next two or three frames after z313.

It's worth pointing out that the magenta, cyan, and yellow dyes used in color film fade over time, but do not do so at the same rate. Magenta takes longer to degrade than the other two colors. As the other dyes fade, the image becomes increasingly skewed towards magenta, which has the effect of reducing the contrast between magenta (and red and pink) areas and the rest of the photo. The cloud of spray was probably more distinctive in 1963 than it was 30 years later when the Z film was digitized, which would go a long way towards explaining why Dino's recollections do match what many researchers want to expect.

Then again, in 2013, Brugioni was a 90-year old man who'd just been shown copies of film frames that he hadn't seen for 50 years. I doubt it's wise to put so much faith in the detailed reliability of such old memories.

Zapruder and Life saw the film the week of the assassination before any dyes got a chance to fade. Despite Zapruder being paid the equivalent in today's money of 1.5m dollars for the film, and Life paying that much, neither of them saw any differences in the Zapruder film at all. That's the kind of money that would make people observant.

[Royell Storing]

Zapruder and Life saw the film the week of the assassination before any dyes got a chance to fade. Despite Zapruder being paid the equivalent in today's money of 1.5m dollars for the film, and Life paying that much, neither of them saw any differences in the Zapruder film at all. That's the kind of money that would make people observant.

  You mention Zapruder and Life not seeing "any DIFFERENCES". "Differences" between the Original Zapruder Film that was sold to Life and specifically what other Z film? Dan Rather saw a Zapruder Film copy the weekend of the assassination. During several Live CBS World Wide TV Broadcasts that same weekend, Rather described his seeing a Much Different Zapruder Film than we have today. For starters, Rather described the Z Film Copy he watched showing the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St.

[Tom Graves]

You mention Zapruder and Life not seeing "any DIFFERENCES". "Differences" between the Original Zapruder Film that was sold to Life and specifically what other Z film? Dan Rather saw a Zapruder Film copy the weekend of the assassination. During several Live CBS World Wide TV Broadcasts that same weekend, Rather described his seeing a Much Different Zapruder Film than we have today. For starters, Rather described the Z Film Copy he watched showing the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St.

The JFKA was Rather's ticket to the big time, and he knew it.

He had to say something, even though he was out of breath, had no notes, and had been allowed to view the clip only one time.

He blew it on several counts, and people didn't realize he'd made up the "I saw the limo turn onto Elm Street in the Zapruder film" aspect of it until at least 12 years later when muckraking Giraldo Rivera showed on national TV a copy of said film that had been stolen by "photo expert" Robert Groden.

D'oh

[Royell Storing]

  Rather screwed up so badly, that CBS gave him Walter Cronkite's News Anchor position. Top of the ladder. That shut him up.

[Tom Graves]

Rather screwed up so badly, that CBS gave him Walter Cronkite's News Anchor position. Top of the ladder. That shut him up.

CBS probably didn't realize that he'd screwed up on so many things until several years later.

Regardless, at least he got the "money shot" (pardon the pun): JFK had been shot in the head, JBC had been shot somewhere, and that Jackie had tried to jump out of the car or some-such thing.

Oh yeah, and that it happened in Dallas, Texas.

On Elm Street.

[Dan O'meara]

Zapruder and Life saw the film the week of the assassination before any dyes got a chance to fade. Despite Zapruder being paid the equivalent in today's money of 1.5m dollars for the film, and Life paying that much, neither of them saw any differences in the Zapruder film at all. That's the kind of money that would make people observant.

Hi Gerry, do you accept that the clip, posted by Jarrett, has completely debunked your assertion that the 'mist' was only present for a single frame?
Did you not think to look at a copy of the Z-film before starting this thread?