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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #624 on: September 15, 2018, 07:05:04 AM »
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Just look at the massive angry crowd that gathered within minutes at the Texas Theater, the hatred, fear and desperation were at fever pitch and in this terror filled environment Brewer and Postal who were accustomed to dealing with the public saw Oswald avoiding the Police so both just acted as they should and put their community first and put their own safety second.



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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline Nicholas Turner

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #625 on: September 15, 2018, 08:00:52 AM »
Thanks Bill, you're already miles ahead of TrollGee.  He just fell off of a pier.

Can you point me to where Brewer said he thought that maybe the 'guy' might be the one they were looking for?  I don't see anything like that in his affidavit or testimony.

Also, what radio station reported on the Tippit shooting within 15 minutes of it supposedly happening?

Searching around on the internet last night I saw a reference to KLIF having broadcast the news of a Dallas police officer having been shot at 1.33pm. I tried to find more on this and found that you can actually listen to the radio broadcasts from KLIF which are recorded and preserved so listened to them from just before the news of the shots in Dealey Plaza came through. Quite interesting and moving really. I haven't worked out from them when the news of the Tippit shooting was broadcast yet - but I also found n article about Tippit's family and how they heard the news and it said that heard reports of the shooting of a Dallas Policeman only minutes after it had happened. Sadly apparently the name of the officer was later broadcast before the family had been informed.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #626 on: September 15, 2018, 04:15:52 PM »
Which radio station? Likely one of the stations reporting the assassination. You'll have to find out if Brewer was switching stations. Anyway, how does that prove Oswald innocent?

You'll have to point out in his affidavit and WC testimony where the brunt of what Brewer swore to changed anything about his observance of a fellow that appeared nervous* to him, apparently enough to follow him down the street.

*a word he used in his affidavit
The President is shot - maybe, Oswald didn't know for sure since he was told "maybe they missed" - right outside the building where he worked.

And about an hour later Oswald, showing no interest in what happened, decides to go see a movie.

This was a profoundly political person; this was not someone not interested in politics. He was a fan of Castro's, he defected to the USSR, he discussed and read politics regularly. But he's going to a movie when the entire world is perhaps turning upside down? Is JFK dead? Was the shooter or shooters caught? Who were they? That fascist Walker? What's going on? Oswald doesn't care? Not a bit?

How can anyone believe this?

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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #627 on: September 15, 2018, 10:32:40 PM »
Rob, can you point out when and where Brewer said he told Postal about Tippit's murder?

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That's the point. When and where did he tell her? Well?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #628 on: September 15, 2018, 10:34:56 PM »
Just look at the massive angry crowd that gathered within minutes at the Texas Theater, the hatred, fear and desperation were at fever pitch and in this terror filled environment Brewer and Postal who were accustomed to dealing with the public saw Oswald avoiding the Police so both just acted as they should and put their community first and put their own safety second.



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Why was it massive and angry when NO one could have knowledge that the man inside killed JDT or JFK?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #629 on: September 16, 2018, 06:20:31 AM »
This doesn't wash.  She notices him enough to see a "panicked look on his face" and to think he's "running from the police" (even though he wasn't running), and then decides to just turn around and look the other way?  Then Brewer immediately comes up to her and asks about the man and she doesn't know what man or whether or not he bought a ticket?  I think she just didn't want to admit that she supposedly let a guy sneak by her without noticing him at all.
The "panicked look on his face" is what she noticed when she initially saw him. "Running from police" came after Brewer followed the guy into the theater and had her call police. The difference is the extra information provided by Brewer (in both word and deed) and in the extra time that allowed her to put two and two together. Before Brewer showed up, he was just some other guy on the street, albeit some dude with that fashionable panicked look to him. The assassination happened a  three miles away, and she didn't know yet about the Tippit killing. Why would she automatically be expected to immediately assume that he was important in any way?

In her affidavit, she saw that she responded to Brewer's initial question with a "No." In her commission testimony, it's ""No; by golly, he didn't." Brewer told the commission she said "no, she hadn't." The only different account is in Brewer's affidavit: "I asked the girl if she had sold the man a ticket and she replied that she did not think so, that she had been listening to the radio and did not remember." This answer implies that she knew who he was talking about, ergo she'd seen "that man"


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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #630 on: September 16, 2018, 06:39:21 AM »
If your explanation is accurate, and that is doubtful, then she should have known that she did NOT sell a ticket to him, but she wasn't sure. How come?
Maybe she thought he might have been a customer who'd bought a ticket earlier but either left the theatre and came back, but just didn't pay enough attention to patrons to know for sure.

Why didn't she find him suspicious like Brewer allegedly did? Why was staring more suspicious behavior than ducking?

If all those excuses were true, why did they bother to look for him then?
Postal and Brewer were two different people. There's no good reason to assume that they would automatically read the same thing into Oswald's behavior.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #631 on: September 16, 2018, 07:24:01 AM »
This doesn't wash.  She notices him enough to see a "panicked look on his face" and to think he's "running from the police" (even though he wasn't running), and then decides to just turn around and look the other way?  Then Brewer immediately comes up to her and asks about the man and she doesn't know what man or whether or not he bought a ticket?  I think she just didn't want to admit that she supposedly let a guy sneak by her without noticing him at all.

"running from the police" (even though he wasn't running)
>>> Which is an indication that she possibly meant 'running' in an on-the-run-from-police' sense
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