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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #272 on: April 13, 2018, 06:09:14 PM »
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I am still waiting for John to tell give is the plan that makes sense for Oswald. I guess John thinks it would have been a good idea to wait in the alley. For how long? 

You haven't even demonstrated that is was Oswald in that alley.

But my objection here is that you paint a picture of an Oswald who is so careful that he has a cab driver drive past his rooming house to see if cops are there but so careless that he runs back up Beckley street in full view of cops who may be coming there.  You paint a picture of an Oswald who is so careful that he sneaks into a theater just in case the ticket booth clerk might recognize him, but so careless that he lingers in front of a shoe store without worrying about whether the shoe store clerk might recognize him.

The picture you paint is inconsistent, and that has nothing to do with any hindsight.

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Won't even bother again with John's silly argument that Oswald should have known Brewer was \watching him.

Are you suggesting that Brewer could see the man in front of his shop, but the man couldn't see Brewer?  What, were there one-way mirrors installed on the storefront?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #272 on: April 13, 2018, 06:09:14 PM »


Offline Brian Walker

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #273 on: April 13, 2018, 06:21:03 PM »
You haven't even demonstrated that is was Oswald in that alley.

But my objection here is that you paint a picture of an Oswald who is so careful that he has a cab driver drive past his rooming house to see if cops are there but so careless that he runs back up Beckley street in full view of cops who may be coming there.  You paint a picture of an Oswald who is so careful that he sneaks into a theater just in case the ticket booth clerk might recognize him, but so careless that he lingers in front of a shoe store without worrying about whether the shoe store clerk might recognize him.

The picture you paint is inconsistent, and that has nothing to do with any hindsight.

Are you suggesting that Brewer could see the man in front of his shop, but the man couldn't see Brewer?  What, were there one-way mirrors installed on the storefront?

It doesn't matter where he came from. The argument is the same. No matter where he was he could not know if someone saw and reported him.

What were his options John? Wait in front from of the shoe store or walk down the street in front of cops that were looking for him.  No matter what he did you are making the same argument just for sake of argument.

It has everything to do with hindsight and you just can't grasp it.

So now you think Oswald should have been worried about a store clerk ( that we don't even know if he noticed ) while cop cars are drving around.
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #274 on: April 13, 2018, 06:44:23 PM »
How about entering the shoe store (returning customer!) and listen in on the radio with Brewer for the latest on the killings?

That's a win-win.

Have you actually looked up "hindsight"?

Yes. I have noted that you have trouble with it also.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline Brian Walker

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #275 on: April 13, 2018, 07:03:13 PM »
Not also, you should have looked it up:

noun
1.
the ability to understand, after something has happened, what should have been done or what caused the event


Exactly Tom.  You still can't grasp it.. You are proving my point.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #276 on: April 13, 2018, 09:11:21 PM »
It doesn't matter where he came from. The argument is the same. No matter where he was he could not know if someone saw and reported him.

What were his options John? Wait in front from of the shoe store or walk down the street in front of cops that were looking for him.  No matter what he did you are making the same argument just for sake of argument.

It has everything to do with hindsight and you just can't grasp it.

So now you think Oswald should have been worried about a store clerk ( that we don't even know if he noticed ) while cop cars are drving around.

You're the one whose not grasping it.  The Oswald in your narrative is either careful not to be seen or he is not.  You have him being careful only when it suits your purposes.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #277 on: April 13, 2018, 11:40:57 PM »
Butch Burroughs, who witnessed Oswald's arrest, startled me in his interview by saying he saw a second arrest occur in the Texas Theater only ?three or four minutes later.?[444] He said the Dallas Police then arrested ?an Oswald lookalike.? Burroughs said the second man ?looked almost like Oswald, like he was his brother ...

 Air Force veteran Carl Vinson claims this flight was diverted to Dallas and  landed on an obscure landing strip,and a man that got on the plane looked a lot like Oswald

 You guys know all this imagine
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #278 on: April 14, 2018, 12:53:02 AM »
They were claims made by the DPD. You have no way of showing that LHO ever uttered them.

Besides that, "this is it" and "it's all over now" sound nothing alike.  And nobody besides McDonald heard him say either of these things, so what is the likelihood that McDonald just made it up?

But I'm sure that Mr. Chapman is 100% sure that he probably said both of these things, because . . . reasons.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #279 on: April 14, 2018, 01:49:42 AM »
Wrong.  It's your standard of proof that is insane.  You believe that something is probably true, but you don't even know why.

Aha! The old CTer 'Appeal to Rebellion' fallacy: Believe anything you want except the official story.

Similar:
>Henry Ford: You can have any color as long as it's black.
>Orwell's Animal Farm 'All pigs are created equal, but some are more equal than others'
>You can believe in any shooter, as long as it's not Oswald.

And so on.