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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #232 on: April 09, 2018, 01:51:08 AM »
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Rob Caprio , thanks for the posting on all the people who left the TSBD and did not return . It is very obvious that the setup of LHO already had the markings of making him look like the Lone nut. From McDonalds arrest report of Oswald who had LHO as the man who killed JFK and JD Tippit. Of course at around 2 PM , J. Edgar Hoover had LHO as being guilty of killing Kennedy . So from 12:30 to about 2: pm, the case seems to have been solved that Oswald was the killer. LHO's revolver had a bent firing pin which would have rendered the handgun to be useless. A paraffin test was applied to Oswald's hands and right cheek; his hands reacted positively , whereas his cheek did not . These results were downplayed and even suppressed by the Federal Authorities. Check out the Nov 29th , 1963 memo from J. Edgar Hoover to Tolson , Belmont , Mohr, Conrad , De Loach , Evans , Rosen and Sullivan . This memo deals with the talks that LBJ and Hoover had about the JFK Assassination.  https:ratical.org/ratville/JFK /Hoover.html

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #233 on: April 09, 2018, 01:58:37 PM »
Didn't you say that it was allegedly found at the Paines? I think so. Stop playing games and cite your evidence for a ring being found at the Paines or admit that you support a myth.

The ring was found at the Paine residence but not by the DPD.  Read the testimony of Ruth Paine and Marina.  It was turned over to the FBI.  Again, what exactly do you think happened here?  The ring was not on Oswald at his arrest.  It is not listed among his arrest possessions or on his finger in photographs.  So what are you suggesting happened? 

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #234 on: April 09, 2018, 02:04:42 PM »
Pure nonesense. The TT was miles from the scene of the assassination so there was no reason to sneak anywhere.

Furthermore, Postal testified to NOT being aware of the JDT shooting so that was NOT an issue either.

There is NOT a shred of evidence showing that LHO ever owned CE 139. If you disagree then cite it.

LHO had no reason to sneak anywhere as he was NOT the only one who had left the TSBD. You are starting to sound like the run-of-the-mill LNer Brown.

What bizarre logic.  The TT was only a couple miles from DP.  Police cars were roaring up and down the road in front of the TT with sirens blaring and yet you are arguing that because Postal didn't have specific knowledge of Tippit's murder she should have been in blissful ignorance of anything going on!  LOL.  Aren't you embarrassed by making that sort of claim?  If Oswald had no reason to sneak into the TT, then why did he sneak into it?  There is no evidence that he bought a ticket.  And yet he is found in the theatre. 

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #235 on: April 10, 2018, 02:41:51 PM »
So you rely on unsupported claims. No shock there. Do you understand what evidence is? Doesn't seem like it.

Could you be specific for once instead of a canned response?  What "unsupported" claims?  Marina and Ruth Paine confirm the ring was found and it was turned over to the FBI.  They were the parties involved in this event because they lived at this residence.  Who else would "support" it?  But if you believe this is a falsehood for some unknown reason (particularly since some CTers argue that leaving the ring has no significance) then can you explain what you are suggesting happened?  Did someone forcibly remove Oswald's wedding ring, plant it at the Paine residence or force Marina and Ruth to lie about finding it?  It's not clear what you are claiming happened and you have thus far refused to specify.  The record as it stands indicates the ring was found at the Paine residence.  You have offered absolutely no explanation much less any evidence whatsoever that casts any doubt on this. 

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #236 on: April 10, 2018, 03:48:26 PM »
Pure nonesense. The TT was miles from the scene of the assassination so there was no reason to sneak anywhere.

Furthermore, Postal testified to NOT being aware of the JDT shooting so that was NOT an issue either.




I see Rob has not figured out the whole hindsight thing yet.


I have always thought that one of the biggest weaknesses ( there are many ) some CK's have is their inability to understand hindsight.

Oswald could not have known if his description was all over the radio at that point. Oswald could not have known if a cop was going to show up at the theater within  minutes and ask Postal if she saw anyone who fit the description.

Oswald at that point could not read Postal's testimony.
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline Brian Walker

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #237 on: April 10, 2018, 08:07:20 PM »
Truly had just vouched for him in front of a policeman.

All good.

Learn the basics of the case.

Here we have another one who doesn't understand hindsight.

You say Truly just vouched for him. How long before Oswald  went into the TT did Truly vouch for him?

Offline Brian Walker

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #238 on: April 10, 2018, 08:42:46 PM »
Has nothing to do with "hindsight".

Do the math if you need the number.

I can see why you would not want to put it out there after saying that Truly JUST vouched for him.  I asked you the time because I wanted to go by what you said. I don't want you argue about how long it was. Is 45 minutes good?

It is hindsight because you are going by what happened and not what could have happened. For example how could Oswald know if 3 minutes after he left the building a coworker told a cop that he saw Oswald shoot at JFK?  Obviously his description could be all over the place and obviously Oswald could not know hat Postal knew at that point. His description could have been on the radio at that point and Postal could have thought he matched the description.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #239 on: April 11, 2018, 12:18:27 AM »
That evidence had been cited, dozens of times in the old forum, and you ignored it.  I'm not jumping through your kook hoops.

And by "evidence", Bill means subjective and unscientific handwriting "analysis" of two block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy of a 2-inch order coupon.

And moon craters.