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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #208 on: April 03, 2018, 01:22:09 AM »
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So your argument is that all of them *could possibly* have not noticed it, therefore it definitely was there when the SN was first discovered?

Nah, just the potential.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #209 on: April 03, 2018, 01:28:36 AM »
So your argument is that all of them *could possibly* have not noticed it, therefore it definitely was there when the SN was first discovered?

Show us where I claim such a finality.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #210 on: April 03, 2018, 01:46:51 AM »
Then what reason do you have for believing that he did all of these things anyway?

What do you mean "*THE* paper bag"?  Frazier saw Oswald carrying *A* paper sack.  A flimsy crinkly 2-foot sack under his armpit between the parking lot and the entrance to the northern annex.

The same flimsy, crinkly bag that should have been seen and considered important by all the officers in the SN, John? Not that you characters want it both ways.

You characters seem somewhat blissfully unaware of your own contradictions.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #211 on: April 03, 2018, 04:24:46 AM »
The same flimsy, crinkly bag that should have been seen and considered important by all the officers in the SN, John? Not that you characters want it both ways.

You characters seem somewhat blissfully unaware of your own contradictions.

Nope, it's you who wants the bag to have been in the SN when it was first discovered despite there being NO evidence for it being there.  All you can do is hope for the possibility that they all missed it.  Because gorillas playing basketball.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #212 on: April 03, 2018, 04:26:23 AM »
Nah, just the potential.

How does this "potential" help determine who shot JFK?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #212 on: April 03, 2018, 04:26:23 AM »


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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #213 on: April 03, 2018, 02:14:59 PM »
Is this your way of saying that you have no evidence showing that LHO ever made a bag Ross?

His prints are on the bag!  Has anyone in the 50 plus years since the assassination come forward to say hey that bag you believe Oswald used to carry the bag was actually mine?  It's lunacy to suggest there is "no evidence" of this under the circumstances.  Oswald was seen carrying a long bag that morning.  No other bag matching that description was ever found in the TSBD.  There is no apparent work-related purpose for the bag that was found to be there.  No one who worked there ever came forward with any explanation for that bag to be there.  Oswald's prints are on that bag.  It is next to the SN where his prints were also found and fired bullet casings from his rifle were located.  Absent a time-machine, it is difficult to see how we could have much more evidence to link him to this bag. 

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #214 on: April 03, 2018, 05:00:11 PM »
His prints are on the bag!

"the bag".  LOL.

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  Has anyone in the 50 plus years since the assassination come forward to say hey that bag you believe Oswald used to carry the bag was actually mine?  It's lunacy to suggest there is "no evidence" of this under the circumstances.  Oswald was seen carrying a long bag that morning.  No other bag matching that description was ever found in the TSBD.  There is no apparent work-related purpose for the bag that was found to be there.  No one who worked there ever came forward with any explanation for that bag to be there.  Oswald's prints are on that bag.  It is next to the SN where his prints were also found and fired bullet casings from his rifle were located.  Absent a time-machine, it is difficult to see how we could have much more evidence to link him to this bag.

How many times are you going to keep making the same fallacious arguments?


You're like a broken record.  You haven't established that any of these claims are true.  You're just assuming them as well:

"(the only TSBD employee to have done so)"
"Oswald himself denying he carried any bag along the size estimated by Frazier"
"its location near the SN"
"no apparent work-related purpose for such a bag to be in the TSBD"

And these are all still stupid "absence of evidence equals evidence of absence" arguments that you keep trotting out over and over again:

"no bag matching Frazier's estimate ever being found"
"no one else ever coming forward who worked in the building to indicate it was their bag or who could explain its presence"

This has been refuted over and over and over again.  No bag ever matching Harold Norman's lunch bag was ever found either.  So by Richard Smith twisted logic, that never existed either.

You can't prove with any actual evidence that CE142 was in the SN when it was first discovered (the first 5-6 officers on the scene did not see it, and Studebaker didn't photograph it even though he was standing right there with a camera).

You can't prove with any actual evidence that CE142 was the bag that Frazier and Randle saw.  They both said it was not.

You can't prove with any actual evidence that there was ever a rifle inside CE142.

Deal with it.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #214 on: April 03, 2018, 05:00:11 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #215 on: April 03, 2018, 06:30:42 PM »
"the bag".  LOL.

How many times are you going to keep making the same fallacious arguments?


I agree that the ring/money thing, in and of it's own, could not convict. Pretty sure that no LNer is claiming that. Go ahead and continue to try and make it look like we are. You are only making yourself look the fool.
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