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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #200 on: March 30, 2018, 06:37:35 PM »
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When did Dougherty say that he saw Oswald only out of the corner of his eye?

Show us where JackD said he saw Oswald from any other angle other than just catching him out of the corner of his eye.
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #201 on: March 30, 2018, 07:13:50 PM »
Show us where JackD said he saw Oswald from any other angle other than just catching him out of the corner of his eye.

There you go again.

Your claim:  "Dougherty saw Oswald only out of the corner of his eye"

Your evidence:  "Prove he didn't"

...which is how you approach every claim you make about this case.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #202 on: March 30, 2018, 07:20:50 PM »
There you go again.

Your claim:  "Dougherty saw Oswald only out of the corner of his eye"

Your evidence:  "Prove he didn't"

...which is how you approach every claim you make about this case.


"Dougherty saw Oswald only out of the corner of his eye"

Based on the above statement...Did Dougherty see Lee Oswald ??

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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #203 on: March 30, 2018, 07:43:49 PM »
Either way you always end up with zero persons seeing Oswald with a bag inside the TSBD.

Will you ever comprehend this fact?

He was never seen in the Wrapping Room in TSBD either

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #204 on: April 01, 2018, 05:38:28 PM »
There you go again.

Your claim:  "Dougherty saw Oswald only out of the corner of his eye"

Your evidence:  "Prove he didn't"

...which is how you approach every claim you make about this case.

Do you have evidence that JackD viewed Oswald before, beyond, after, or following seeing him out of the corner of his eye?

BTW:

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, oh--it's like this--I'll try to explain it to
you this way--- you see, I was sitting on the wrapping table and when
he came in the door, I just caught him out of the corner of my eye---
that's the reason why I said it that way. ....
Mr. BALL - In other words, you would say positively he had nothing in
his hands?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - I would say that---yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - Or, are you guessing?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - I don't think so.


So JackD doesn't think he was guessing, huh LOL
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #205 on: April 01, 2018, 10:35:12 PM »
Do you have evidence that JackD viewed Oswald before, beyond, after, or following seeing him out of the corner of his eye?

BTW:

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, oh--it's like this--I'll try to explain it to
you this way--- you see, I was sitting on the wrapping table and when
he came in the door, I just caught him out of the corner of my eye---
that's the reason why I said it that way. ....
Mr. BALL - In other words, you would say positively he had nothing in
his hands?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - I would say that---yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - Or, are you guessing?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - I don't think so.


So JackD doesn't think he was guessing, huh LOL

Why does Ball keep asking him the same questions over and over?  Because he doesn't like the answer.  Just like he didn't like Markham's answers.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #206 on: April 03, 2018, 01:05:40 AM »
Tony... I'm just saying that it's unremarkable that nobody saw Oswald:

-- Take the paper from the shipping area (or construct the bag right there).

-- Transport the paper from the TSBD to the Paine's residence in Irving.

-- Construct the paper bag in the garage at the Paine's residence.

-- Pass Dougherty on the way to the freight elevator without this co-worker seeing the bag.

Then what reason do you have for believing that he did all of these things anyway?

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Oswald "was" seen carrying the paper bag into the TSBD by Buell Wesley Frazier.

What do you mean "*THE* paper bag"?  Frazier saw Oswald carrying *A* paper sack.  A flimsy crinkly 2-foot sack under his armpit between the parking lot and the entrance to the northern annex.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #207 on: April 03, 2018, 01:08:07 AM »
I read 6 saw it. Plus that corner would be in shadow, and I understand that the bag was folded in half lengthwise and didn't someone pick it up and put it out of the way? (I'm not clear there)

Also, a paper package in a building full of books wrapped in paper might not initially look out of place in the rush to find a rifle & spent shells. Especially a bag apparently looking 'flimsy and crinkly' according to you characters.

So your argument is that all of them *could possibly* have not noticed it, therefore it definitely was there when the SN was first discovered?