Why did Oswald go to the movies?

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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #707 on: September 18, 2018, 02:07:00 PM »
Cases are solved by professional investigators trained to recognise significant details but also to consider how people react and behave and not to get lost in minutiae, not by online amateur sleuths looking for things which they think supports their beliefs.

Looking at the minutiae is not on its own an issue but each detail should not be viewed in isolation but should be viewed with an over view and feeling for the bigger picture and how people act in difficult situations.

This is your fancy way of saying that you have no answers or supporting evidence.

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #708 on: September 18, 2018, 02:09:39 PM »
The WC was flawed and there were clearly attempts to cover things up. That doesn't mean necessarily that there was a conspiracy before the event, nor that the overall conclusion of the WC, that LHO acted alone, is wrong.

I judge from what I see and read on here and elsewhere.

Covering things up equals conspiracy. If it happened the way the WC claimed then there would have been no need to cover anything up.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #709 on: September 18, 2018, 02:12:12 PM »
We know Postal called the police.  We know she thought the man was in the balcony because he had not been seen by Burroughs in the lobby and she knew from past experience that a way to avoid Burroughs was to head directly up the stairs upon entering the TT to the balcony.  She made a logical inference that may or may not have been correct.  Oswald very well could have gone up to the balcony and cut across to avoid the lobby and Burroughs.  So Postal is the obvious source of the balcony report.

So what made him a suspect? Supposedly sneaking into a theater?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #710 on: September 18, 2018, 02:14:27 PM »
It's in her testimony.  Clear as day.  She thought the man had gone to the balcony because Burroughs did not see him pass through the lobby.  Burroughs came to the same conclusion as he confirmed in his testimony.  Postal called the police.  The police received a report that the man was in the balcony.  2+2=4.

Except for  -- what part of this tale made him a "suspect?"

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #711 on: September 18, 2018, 02:15:50 PM »
Julia Postal said that Oswald had a panicked look on his face "Mrs. POSTAL. Yes; and when the sirens went by he had a panicked look on his face, and he ducked in" as he passed her yet  she didn't see him go past her.
"Mr. BALL. And you didn't see him actually enter the theatre then?
Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You hadn't seen him go by you?
Mrs. POSTAL. I knew he didn't go by me, because I was facing west, and Johnny, he had come up from east which meant he didn't go back that way. He had come from east going west. "

If she didn't see him go past her, how could she see he had a panicked look on his face?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #712 on: September 18, 2018, 02:30:08 PM »
Julia Postal said that Oswald had a panicked look on his face "Mrs. POSTAL. Yes; and when the sirens went by he had a panicked look on his face, and he ducked in" as he passed her yet  she didn't see him go past her.
"Mr. BALL. And you didn't see him actually enter the theatre then?
Mrs. POSTAL. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You hadn't seen him go by you?
Mrs. POSTAL. I knew he didn't go by me, because I was facing west, and Johnny, he had come up from east which meant he didn't go back that way. He had come from east going west. "

If she didn't see him go past her, how could she see he had a panicked look on his face?

You are mixing apples and oranges.  She didn't see Oswald actually enter the theatre but she did see Oswald duck into the area in front of the theatre.

Mrs. POSTAL. On Jefferson Boulevard, and then we made the remark, "Some thing is about to bust," or "pop," or something to that effect, so, it was just about----some sirens were going west, and my employer got in his car. He was parked in front, to go up to see where they were going. He, perhaps I said, he passed Oswald. At that time I didn't know it was Oswald. Had to bypass him, because as he went through this way, Oswald went through this way and ducked into the theatre there.
Mr. BALL. Let me see. Had you ever seen this man before then at that particular theatre?
Mrs. POSTAL. Not that I know of, huh-uh.
Mr. BALL. A police car had gone by just before this?
Mrs. POSTAL. Yes, sir; going west.
Mr. BALL. Its siren on?
Mrs. POSTAL. Yes; full blast.
Mr. BALL. And after you saw the police car go west with its siren on, why at the time the police car went west with its siren on, did you see the man that ducked? This man that you were----
Mrs. POSTAL. This man, yes; he ducked into the box office and----I don't know if you are familiar with the theatre.

Mr. BALL. Yes; I have seen the theatre.
Mrs. POSTAL. You have? Well, he was coming from east going west. In other words, he ducked right in.
Mr. BALL. Ducked in, what do you mean? He had come around the corner----
Mrs. POSTAL. Yes; and when the sirens went by he had a panicked look on his face, and he ducked in.


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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #713 on: September 18, 2018, 02:37:31 PM »
Except for  -- what part of this tale made him a "suspect?"

So we can agree that Postal was the source of the balcony report before moving on to something that has been discussed a million times already?  Postal knew the president had been assassinated a short distance away.  Police cars are flying up and down the road right in front of her.  A man is observed by her and Brewer appearing to hide from the police by ducking away from the street whenever a police car goes by.  He enters her theatre without buying a ticket (a crime).  She simply reports a person acting suspiciously under the totality of circumstances.  She has no idea whether this is the person the police are looking for or not.  Just that he is behaving like someone trying to hide from the police.  Which, of course, was exactly what he was doing.  There is no great mystery here.