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Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2018, 02:17:43 AM »

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What are you implying Joe?

Did Mr Truly know where Charles Givens was?



What evidence is there that Charles Givens left Dealey Plaza immediately?

Did he take a taxi?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Online Bill Chapman

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2018, 03:51:01 AM »
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First off, I'm not asking this to provoke a fight. I'm just curious as to what some think about Oswald going to the movies, after the President was shot at, from the building he worked in. Some of the TSBD employees left after the shooting, but he was the only one not to return. He went home got his revolver and then went to the movies. Just seems like an odd thing to do, after something as historical as the president getting shot at, happened in front of where he worked.

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I wouldn't call that merely going to the movies exactly. More likely a somewhat-more-urgent gimme shelter response.
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Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 04:30:12 AM »

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To Mr Truly, at that immediate time post assassination - Givens could have been the actual assassin or a co conspirator.

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Givens was missing from the line up as well.

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Why did Mr Truly report only Lee "missing"?



Oswald was the natural one for Mr. Truly to suspect. He saw a police officer point a gun at Oswald. He vouched for Oswald because he didnít realize the shots came from that building, let alone from one of his employees. When he heard a rifle was found, naturally his mind would go back to Officer Baker pointing a gun at Oswald.

If Officer Baker had initially suspected Givens but Truly immediately focused on Oswald, that would be strange. But knowing the shots were fired from that building. The shooter might be one of his employees. And an officer initially suspected Oswald. Naturally his suspicious are going to be initially turned to Oswald. And enhanced when he also realizes he hasnít seen Oswald since that encounter with Officer Baker.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2018, 12:13:57 PM »
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First off, I'm not asking this to provoke a fight. I'm just curious as to what some think about Oswald going to the movies, after the President was shot at,

Wesley,

You asked an interesting question in the context that this seems outside Lee Harvey Oswald's normal pattern of behavior. From everything I've ever read, LHO seemed to spend his leisure time reading books. It was either his housekeeper, or landlady that said he did watch TV sometimes, but what I've read, he preferred reading books of one sort or another.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 03:23:36 PM »
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You want "thoughts" (i.e. speculation) so you can discuss that instead of actually citing the evidence.

Rob I really don't care what your thoughts are about anything. You obviously are really obsessed with "Sinking the WC" why don't you write a book on it. You might even make some money. 

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2018, 07:44:18 PM »
Because unlike the majority of Americans, who were huddled around televisions and radios to learn of the President's fate, he decided it was more important to see a Mickey Mouse short and a war movie. Totally normal behavior if you think about it.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 08:29:04 PM »
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Finally, you're asking a question and a good one at that. I've always wondered about that. It's a conundrum for sure, but then so is him going to a middle of nowhere place like 10th street. What in the world was he doing there, walking along with no obvious place to go, when he could have been on a bus out of town?

Lee went to the theater because that's where he'd been told to meet his contact......  As part of the hoax attempt to shoot JFK Lee thought that his contact would escort him out of the country where he could seek asylum  in Cuba.

There were three of Hoover's "Extra Special" Special agents in the Texas Theater before the police arrived......

Either those agents were as fast as lightning, and beat the cops to the theater or..........

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 08:45:52 PM »
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** Oswald arranged for a unique weeknight ride to where his wife was staying instead of the usual weekend ride.

He had only had the job for a few weeks, and still it wasn't the only time he came to Irving on a different day.  What makes this "unique" in your mind?

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** Oswald brought to work a long object wrapped in paper (it would be too embarrassing to be seen with curtain rods).

An object that both witnesses who saw it said was too short to hold the alleged murder weapon.

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** Oswald was the only one at work who immediately left the Dealey Plaza area. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I understand a few others left the building to check out what happened from other people in the plaza. And then found themselves locked out of the building by the police. Only then did they go home.

Hang on.  What makes you so sure that Oswald didn't find himself locked out of the building by police?

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** Oswald got on a bus and then immediately off when it was stuck in traffic.

The bus driver confused Milton Jones for Oswald.  So you're relying on Mary Bledsoe who doesn't even have any evidence that she ever rented a room to Oswald.  Her son "sold" the page out of her calendar that would have helped confirm her story.  Darn the luck.

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** Oswald ordered his only taxi ride (quite an expense) that we know of during his life.

If he actually did take this taxi ride, it was a buck.  Roughly $8 in today's dollars.  Not exactly a fortune.  He made $1.25 an hour.

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This seems pretty consistent to me. If Oswald lived and told me a different story, I probably would not believe him.

Consistent with what?  What does any of this have to do with murdering the president?
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 08:49:57 PM »
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Because unlike the majority of Americans, who were huddled around televisions and radios to learn of the President's fate, he decided it was more important to see a Mickey Mouse short and a war movie. Totally normal behavior if you think about it.

How can you be sure that Oswald even knew that the president was shot?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 10:04:53 PM »
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How can you be sure that Oswald even knew that the president was shot?

Got any evidence that he didn't know to back that up Grand Poobah?

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