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Offline Anthony Clayden

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 08:34:48 PM »
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Thanks for your reply Anthony. Just so you know, his second child had already been born.

Thanks for the correction on his 2nd child.
The other question that is often asked is why did he take his revolver to the movies.
I think given it is not implausible that he was planning to attempt suicide, he had tried previously whilst in the USSR when he had been rebuffed from something he had really wanted. Or he might have been wrestling with deciding  to shot Marina, marital violence during a breakdown is also not uncommon.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 08:56:35 PM »
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Thanks for your reply Anthony. Just so you know, his second child had already been born.

Marina testified to the following about Lee asking her to move with him into an apartment:

Mrs. OSWALD. I said [to Lee that] it would be better if I remained with Ruth until the holidays, he would come, and we would all meet together. That this was better because while he was living alone and I stayed with Ruth, we were spending less money. And I told him to buy me a washing machine, because two children it became too difficult to wash by hand.
Mr. RANKIN. What did he say to that?
Mrs. OSWALD. He said he would buy me a washing machine.

Marina also said (I can't find the source to cite it) that he told her he was going to stay with her at the Paine residence that weekend but not Friday night because he had visited on Thursday.

There was nothing - from Marina's point of view - indicating their marriage was over. As she said above, she was hoping they would all get together for the holidays. Perhaps he thought differently.

And, of course, nowhere in his interrogation with the police did he mention a breakup with Marina as the cause for him going to the movies; which, apparently he sneaked into despite having about $18 on him.

It's possible but this is speculation based on, as far as I can see, no evidence whatsoever.

And oh yeah, why did he go to the movies?: He was escaping from the police because he had just shot one of their officers. Question: I've been outside when police cars went screaming by. I stood and stared at them and wondered what the hell was going on? Oswald apparently wasn't interested in all of that commotion. Why?

Marina's testimony on the above is here:
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Online Dan DAlimonte

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 09:06:22 PM »
Hey, Wesley.  A few years back a comedian was making fun of Depends underwear
as to why any person would buy a product with such a name. 

Will this type of underwear be helpful in case I have an accident? 

Depends.

So, why did Oswald go to the movies?

Depends.

Was he the lone gunman and murdered Tippit as well?  Was he involved in a team?  Was he innocent
and afraid for his life?  Was he going to a safe house and he encountered and murdered Tippit?  Was he planning to kill someone else before he encountered Tippit?  Did he have his own escape plan where he would wait in the dark and leave at night?  Was he involved and went to the TT to meet his contact? 
And, on and on ...

Depends.
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Online Mark Valenti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 09:50:16 PM »
From eyewitness testimony, LHO ducked into the movie theater apparently to avoid being seen by police who were in the area.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 10:29:36 PM »
Why did Our Boy not take his rifle to the war movies?
Answer that and you are a step closer to the truth.
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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 11:42:33 PM »
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First off, I'm not asking this to provoke a fight. I'm just curious as to what some think about Oswald going to the movies, after the President was shot at, from the building he worked in. Some of the TSBD employees left after the shooting, but he was the only one not to return.

That's false.

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He went home got his revolver

That's unproven.

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and then went to the movies. Just seems like an odd thing to do, after something as historical as the president getting shot at, happened in front of where he worked.

Who knows?  Why did anybody go to the movies that day?  Why did Buell Frazier go visit his step-father in the hospital after something as historical as the president getting shot at, happened in front of where he worked?

The mistake is in assuming that everything that happens must be significant.

Online Rob Caprio

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 12:12:08 AM »
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Who else did not return?

You really should read my "Statements That Sink The WC's Conclusions" series so you can learn this case. I am in the process of reposting them now.

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As for point 4, these are the people who did NOT return for work!

Jack Charles Cason – President of School Book Depository – left building at 12:10 p.m. and went home (22H 640)
Gloria Jean Holt – clerk at TSBD – does not return after shooting. (19H 526 & 22H 652)
Sharon Simmons Nelson, Secretary, does not return after shooting. (Ibid)
Bonnie Richey, Secretary, does not return after the shooting. (22H 671)
Carolyn Arnold does not return after shooting. (22H 635)
Mrs. Donald Baker, Clerk, does not return after shooting. (22H 635)
Judy Marie Johnson does not return after shooting. (22H 256)
Ms. Stella Mae Jacob does not return after shooting. (22H 665)
Charles Givens does not return after the shooting and an APB was issued for him.
Virginia H. Brnum – McGraw-Hill employee, does not return after shooting. (22H 636)
Vida Lee Whately – Clerk, does not return after shooting. (22H 680)
Warren Caster, ate lunch in Denton. (22H 641 & 26H 738)
Spaudlin “Pud” Jones, eating lunch at Blue Front with Herbert. (22H 658)
Herbert L. Junker – McMillian employee, (22H 659)
Mrs. Helen Palmer, Clerk, not present as she was at Love Field. (22H 659)
Franklin Kaiser – absent from work on 11/22/63.  (6H 342  & 23H 751)

So we see quite a number of people did NOT return to work after the shooting.  So why did Truly immediately focus on LHO alone?  I think you can answer that one for yourselves.  These folks were ABSENT from the building and unless you knew them how would you know they did NOT return after shooting? YOU wouldn't.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 12:14:43 AM »
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Rob do you have any thoughts on why he went to the movies?

I am not a mind-reader or a psychic. Why do you think he owned CE 143? Please cite your evidence.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2018, 12:17:48 AM »
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Speculation is fine Steve. I just wanted some thoughts on it. I think he did go to the movies.

You want "thoughts" (i.e. speculation) so you can discuss that instead of actually citing the evidence.

Offline John Anderson

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2018, 12:57:22 AM »
There's nothing to suggest their marriage was over.
Except she had been trying to get a visa to go back to Russia since February.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2018, 12:57:22 AM »