Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?

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Re: Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?
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Oooooh, I am straining, struggling, laboring, sweating bullets, drudging and slogging to invent, fabricate and imagine two shooters behind JFK on 11/22.

I can't figure out how Gov. JBC was struck ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313.

Last night I flatulated so hard I gained two inches of lift off the ceramic throne! Stress!

In fact, there is a small round hole in the back of JBC's assassination-day shirt.

https://www.tsl.texas.gov/sites/default/files/public/tslac/landing/documents/jfk-damaged-clothing18.pdf

Why Blakey and Baden, and a generation of LN'ers, jibber-jabbered about a "tumbling bullet" is somewhat comical. Basic physical evidence does not count?

Dr Robert Shaw leaned to the explanation that JBC was shot directly from above and behind. And wondered about the shot to JBC's wrist.

I agree with Shaw.

Castro, G2, KGB and Alpha-66 come to mind. Possibly CIA'ers who were really KGB assets.

Plenty of Cubans wanted revenge on JFK.

The LN explanation was preferred at the time (1963-4). Especially by KGB moles in the CIA?

Yeah, that bullet entrance "to the back side of JBC's wrist" is a real stumper, huh?

Regarding whether or not CE-399 tumbled between JFK's throat and JBC's back, do you think the so-called Single Bullet Theory is completely dependent on its having done so?

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Re: Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?
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Oooooh, I am straining, struggling, laboring, sweating bullets, drudging and slogging to invent, fabricate and imagine two shooters behind JFK on 11/22.

I can't figure out how Gov. JBC was struck ~Z-295 and JFK at Z-313.

Last night I flatulated so hard I gained two inches of lift off the ceramic throne! Stress!

In fact, there is a small round hole in the back of JBC's assassination-day shirt.

https://www.tsl.texas.gov/sites/default/files/public/tslac/landing/documents/jfk-damaged-clothing18.pdf

Why Blakey and Baden, and a generation of LN'ers, jibber-jabbered about a "tumbling bullet" is somewhat comical. Basic physical evidence does not count?

Dr Robert Shaw leaned to the explanation that JBC was shot directly from above and behind. And wondered about the shot to JBC's wrist.

I agree with Shaw.

Castro, G2, KGB and Alpha-66 come to mind. Possibly CIA'ers who were really KGB assets.

Plenty of Cubans wanted revenge on JFK.

The LN explanation was preferred at the time (1963-4). Especially by KGB moles in the CIA?

   The "ABOVE and Behind" location of a shooter is Not restricted to the 6th Floor snipers's nest. When you consider the topography of Dealey Plaza and Elm St running down hill toward the Triple Underpass, this "above and behind" description would include a shot being fired from the Bushes/Shrubs/Garden that run along the Elm St Extension. These are the same Bushes/Shrubs/Garden that DPD Officer Smith can be seen checking on the Darnell/Couch Films. A possible shot from these bushes is also referenced by Mal Couch and Bill Newman. And going back to 1988, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" detailed there being 3 total shooters. 2 shooters being Behind JFK, "...one almost on the horizontal". A shot fired from the Bushes/Shrubs/Garden would fit the, "almost on the horizontal", along with the, "above and behind" location of a JFK shooter. And of course, there is also the "getaway" car that was conveniently pulling into position close to the corner of the Elm St Extension and Elm St. This parked location of the "getaway" car was also directly across from the "wide open" Huge Gates that were attached to the TSBD. These "wide open" Huge Gates did provide clandestine access and egress to/from the TSBD. The assassination of JFK was a very well planned Conspiracy.

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Re: Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?
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Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?

I believe that their recreation of the single-bullet theory substantiates Dale Myers' animation, and thus proves that one bullet went through Kennedy and Connally.

Knott demonstrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that a bullet passing through JFK would hit JBC in the back;



However, as good as their recreation of Dealey Plaza and the limo were, their recreation of the relative positions of JFK and JBC was way off. They had JBC sat almost directly in front of JFK when , in fact, he was sat a lot further inboard. Correcting this would correct where Knott estimated JBC was hit by a bullet passing through JFK:



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Knott demonstrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that a bullet passing through JFK would hit JBC in the back;



However, as good as their recreation of Dealey Plaza and the limo were, their recreation of the relative positions of JFK and JBC was way off. They had JBC sat almost directly in front of JFK when , in fact, he was sat a lot further inboard. Correcting this would correct where Knott estimated JBC was hit by a bullet passing through JFK:



   "...he was SAT a lot further inboard"? Nobody knows the physical body positions of JFK or Gov Connally when they went behind the Stemmons Sign. But if you look at overhead photos of the JFK Limo at the DC Lab, the Connally jump seat itself is physically DIRECTLY in front of the JFK seated portion of the backseat. Also, the Connally jump seat does NOT MOVE (R) or (L). It can Only move forward or backward due to being attached to a runner. And, if you look at Love Field footage when the (R) rear door of the JFK Limo is closed, you can see how Connally's (R) leg is pressed against that same door. They had to be extremely careful to NOT slam that door into Connally's (R) leg when they closed that door. This is how extremely close to the (R) side of the JFK Limo that the jump seat was Fixed. Both JFK and Connally also had their (R) elbows resting atop the (R) side of the car throughout their journey thru Dallas. ALL of this is indicative of their being seated "inline".   

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Re: Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?
« Reply #12 on: Today at 01:09:02 AM »
TG---

No, the SBT is not totally dependent on the "tumbling" bullet undergirding.

But, that is why Michael Baden and Robert Blakey (big dudes at HSCA) said they believed the SBT. And many others.

OK, the SBT bullet was obviously not tumbling...so then what?

And, yes, the entry wound on Gov. JBC's dorsal-side wrist is a puzzler.

One problem: The SBT was devised to explain why two shots did so much damage, and Specter's job was to present the prosecution's case against LHO.

To avoid any hint that KGB, G2, or others might have helped LHO: Specter's job.

The JFKA case against any organization is speculative. If LHO had confederates, they were never apprehended. It could have been anybody.

Possibly Alpha-66. Acting independently. But then G2 had infiltrated many exile organizations.


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« Reply #13 on: Today at 01:21:08 AM »
RS-

Thanks for your comments.

I agree DPD'er Smith was told by an eyewitness that shots came from the bushes in the concourse and GK area, and he was investigating. Smith later came across a man who flashed Secret Service credentials. Odd.

There was an entry wound to the dorsal side of JBC's wrist. Hard to explain.

IMHO, the JFKA was nearly an impromptu and ad hoc affair, perped by individuals with no institutional power in the US.

Cubans, either exiles, or G2 assets, or Alpha 66, who had experience in kinetic terror ops---indeed, Antonio Veciana personally tried to blow up Castro with a bazooka. The Alpha 66'ers were chronically livid regarding the BoP.

On the other hand, G2 assets may have been informed by double-agent Ruben Cubela that JFK was still trying to assassinate Castro. Turnabout is fair play.

Somehow the Cubans convinced LHO to play a role in the JFKA. As a devout Marxist, and pro-Castro-ite, perhaps LHO was on board, or perhaps only made into a patsy.

That's about as much as I suspect.

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Re: Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?
« Reply #14 on: Today at 01:45:31 AM »
OK, the SBT bullet was obviously not tumbling ... so then what?

I didn't say CE-399 wasn't tumbling between JFK's neck and JBC's back.

This is from the Right Down Your Alley Department:

"Maybe it was."

"Maybe it wasn't."

The important thing is that the so-called Single Bullet Theory doesn't depend on it.

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Re: Did Knott Laboratory Disprove the Single-Bullet Theory?
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TG--

Your astute comments are not un-meaningless.

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