Dale Myers Controversal Diagram

[Tom Graves]

In almost all cases, it has nothing to do with the JFKA.

If you are anti-Trump, or anti-Biden, fine by me. There are floods online about blue-red blah, blah, blah and blabber-o-rama.

I am interested in the JFKA.

You're convinced it was a conspiracy, right?

[Michael T. Griffith]

I provide much of the other side of the story on the Tippit shooting, i.e., many of the problems with the case against Oswald in the shooting, in my review of Myers' book:

"Did Oswald Shoot Tippit? A Review of Dale Myers’ Book With Malice"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_j_022lJYli3B5Xyw8wLs-0nl6mDLo2t/view?usp=sharing

EXCERPT:

The bulk of the evidence indicates that Tippit was shot several minutes earlier than Myers can allow, and several minutes before Oswald could have arrived at the scene. Myers sidesteps most of this evidence. For example, Myers fails to mention that Mrs. Markham felt certain Tippit was shot at around 1:06 or 1:07. Bowley's watch-checked time of 1:10 for his arrival at the scene matches well with Markham's time of 1:06-1:07 for the shooting and with Benavides' account that he waited a few minutes before he approached the patrol car. It also corresponds with other eyewitness estimates of when the shooting occurred.

The evidence clearly indicates that Tippit was shot very soon after he exited his car at 1:08. Tippit’s last transmission was at 1:08 and was mostly likely made to let the dispatcher know that he was exiting his car, which was standard procedure. And, as mentioned, Bowley arrived at the scene at 1:10. Thus, Markham’s time of 1:06 or 1:07 for the shooting is very close to the mark. Perhaps Myers did not think he could afford to mention Mrs. Markham's comments about when the shooting occurred because he had already noted that Markham was en route to her regular 1:12-1:15 bus when she witnessed the Tippit slaying. Several other facts support Mrs. Markham's statements about the time of the shooting.

Mrs. Markham said that she left her apartment building at 1:04, that it would have taken her about 2 minutes to walk from her apartment building to the Tippit scene, that she walked to her bus stop every day, and that she had a routine of leaving at 1:00 to catch her bus. Myers would have us believe that Markham erred substantially, by 7 minutes, in her recollection of when she left her apartment building, even though she noted that as she was leaving she glanced at the clock in the laundry room of her apartment building and that the clock read 1:04. Nonetheless, Myers argues that Mrs. Markham was mistaken.

Mrs. Markham's time of 1:06 or 1:07 for the shooting, though just a minute or two early, is much closer to the mark than Myers’ time of 1:14. Her time is consistent with her testimony that she left the apartment building at 1:04; it is consistent with how long it would have taken her to walk from her apartment to where she was when Tippit was shot (2-4 minutes); and it is consistent with her testimony that the laundry room clock read 1:04 when she departed for her bus stop. But Myers simply cannot afford to accept Mrs. Markham’s time as close to the mark because it destroys his version of the shooting.

Bowley's radio call to the dispatcher deserves further consideration. As mentioned, Bowley reported his watch read 1:10 when he drove up to the crime scene, which means Tippit must have been shot a minute or two earlier. Bowley then walked up to the car, took the radio mike from Domingo Benavides, and contacted the police dispatcher at 1:16 or 1:17. Note that this was after Benavides heard gunfire, ducked into his truck and waited there "for a few minutes" (out of fear the killer would return), got out of his truck, attempted to help Tippit, climbed into the squad car, and then fumbled with the radio as he tried to figure out how it worked. It was at this point that Bowley appeared inside the car, took the radio from Benavides, and contacted the dispatcher.

The standard lone-gunman explanation is that Benavides waited in his truck only for a matter of seconds and not for a few minutes. But this flies in the face of common sense, not to mention that it ignores what Benavides himself initially said, which was that he waited in his truck for "a few minutes." If you were only 25-50 feet away from a shooting and feared you could be the next target, how long would you wait until coming out into the open again? Understandably, and by all accounts, Benavides was scared to death by the shooting. He told the WC he waited in his truck "a few minutes" after he heard the shots. According to fellow witness Ted Calloway, Benavides told him the day after the shooting that,

When I heard that shooting, I fell down into the floorboard of my truck and I stayed there. It scared me to death. (p. 220, emphasis added)

Years later Benavides changed his story and told CBS he only waited a few seconds, not a few minutes. Predictably, Myers chooses to accept Benavides' belated change of story and rejects his original statements (pp. 86-87).

If, as seems likely, Benavides did in fact wait in his truck for a minute or two after the shots rang out, then the case against Oswald collapses, unless one is willing to assume some unknown person gave Oswald a ride to the Tippit shooting scene. Myers is willing to speculate that this might have happened, suggesting that a person who gave Oswald a ride would not have come forward to tell about it because he would have been too embarrassed (p. 352). But why would Oswald have wanted to be dropped off at 10th and Patton? ("Did Oswald Shoot Tippit?", pp. 27-29)

[Benjamin Cole]

You're convinced it was a conspiracy, right?

I suspect a JFKAC, but I am not convinced.

I suspect a rather small conspiracy, possibly just two guys from Alpha 66 and LHO.

What role LHO played, I dunno. Maybe he fires shots from the TSBD6 sniper window in earnest, or maybe to miss. 

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z280.jpg

This is Z-film 280. You see JBC has done a 180-degree turn in his seat, and you see the left profile of his face. JBC  is facing backwards, looking for JFK, in Z-280. This is not debatable. 

Yet by the SBT, JBC by Z-280 has already been shot through the chest, had his right wrist fractured, and has a projectile buried in his left leg. After sustaining those injuries, JBC turns around to look for JFK, by the SBT.

JBC testified he was pushed forward and immediately incapacitated by the slug that struck him, which is entirely believable.

So, I wonder what happened---I suspect a second gunsel behind JFK. I can't prove it. If you want high proof, see the label on a bottle of tequila.

However, there are also Youtubes up of people firing M-C carbines every quickly. Seven shots in six seconds.

Paul Landis finding a slug in the limo adds more questions.

As I always say, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

I think the HSCA was close.

[Tom Graves]

I suspect a JFKAC, but I am not convinced.

I suspect a rather small conspiracy, possibly just two guys from Alpha 66 and LHO.

What role LHO played, I dunno. Maybe he fires shots from the TSBD6 sniper window in earnest, or maybe to miss. 

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z280.jpg

This is Z-film 280. You see JBC has done a 180-degree turn in his seat, and you see the left profile of his face. JBC  is facing backwards, looking for JFK, in Z-280. This is not debatable. 

Yet by the SBT, JBC by Z-280 has already been shot through the chest, had his right wrist fractured, and has a projectile buried in his left leg. After sustaining those injuries, JBC turns around to look for JFK, by the SBT.

JBC testified he was pushed forward and immediately incapacitated by the slug that struck him, which is entirely believable.

So, I wonder what happened---I suspect a second gunsel behind JFK. I can't prove it. If you want high proof, see the label on a bottle of tequila.

However, there are also Youtubes up of people firing M-C carbines every quickly. Seven shots in six seconds.

Paul Landis finding a slug in the limo adds more questions.

As I always say, caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

I think the HSCA was close.

Paul "The Cellar" Landis' allegedly finding a slug in the limo.

[Gerry Down]

Every time somebody posts my podcast on the education forum, it gets deleted. I am now on a four month suspension for just
replying to a moderators comment on why he took down three of my posts.

fred

Keep up the good work on your blog. We need informative content to bat against the continued stream of craziness.

[Gerry Down]

@Gerry Down....

Thanks, Gerry, for sharing your observations and opinions with us. It's certainly food for thought.

When trying to answer this question — Was Lee Harvey Oswald Walking East Or West On Tenth Street Before He Shot Officer Tippit? — author Vincent Bugliosi HAD THIS TO SAY.

Also....

Here's another useful image, which is a March 1964 aerial photograph showing the area surrounding the Tippit murder site:

Thanks for that. To be fair, Bugliosi might not be right that Oswald would not be likely to turn around in front of a police car in case he drew suspicion. There was a line of trees along the sidewalk which may have hindered the view between Oswald and the approaching police car. Oswald may have felt he could turn around without the police car seeing him as the tree might block Tippits view. Still though, personally I would prefer to walk towards such a police car rather than turn my back as it would give me the best chance to run away in case the police car tried to stop me.

At the end of the day there is a timing issue with having Oswald coming from the east and walking westwards. Therefore the burden of proof is on Myers to prop up his theory against the WCs version. And in my opinion, the evidence is just not strong enough for his theory.

[Gerry Down]

FL-

The EF-JFKA has gone downhill, waaaayyy downhill.

It is run by a crackpot-moderator, who valorizes Run Unz (that is a clue), and many others have been banned.

I was banned for 50 days for stating I was concerned at "internet ghouls" who were cheering Charles Kirk assassination.

I happen to disagree with you on several topics, and Clay Shaw.

That is why you should be a part of any JFKA forum.

I get the impression founder John Simkim is deep into his dotage, which will happen to us all.

On top of all that, there a few EF-JFKA commenters constantly and heavily promoting their own JFKA theories, some of them zany, while others can't seem to stop talking about Trump.

Meaning that a typical Trump voter, that is 50% of the population, would read the EF-JFKA and get turned off.

Oh, that is smart.

I was banned for 3 days for something similar.