How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?

[Tom Graves]

The above is proof of your trying "this and that" in order to make it work. That's not evidence. What you're doing is like a kid screwing around with a chemistry set and ending up with a stink bomb.

Dear Royell,

In other words, you have no rational response and all you can so is hurl insults.

You poor little "useful idiot," you.

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Royell,

Okay, how about "hollerin'", then?

Isn't that what they do in your neck of the woods?
 
Dear Royell,

Since big and tall and red-haired (and therefore easy-to-spot) Calvery was within 10 to 12 seconds of the "island" and was bookin' it to the TSBD, Shelley and his sidekick, Lovelady, may have intercepted her in "the middle of" Elm Street Extension, itself.

Does that work for you?

-- Tom

    The above is why You and The Nutty Professor are "2 peas inna pod". You guys are repeatedly revising your previous position(s). Just buckle down, put in the time, and do the deep-dive research. And remember to remove your Red/Cyan Glasses. 

[Royell Storing]

Of course I remember, Pinko.
This is the lie...sorry, fabrication... I'm talking about, so obviously I remember.
I've argued all along that Shelley immediately ran from the steps and met Gloria coming the other way. He states this in his affidavit. (People such as yourself have to ignore the fact that, during his WC testimony, Shelley completely changes his story, stating that he stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before Gloria ran up).
The 'fabrication' I have to keep calling you out on is the part where Shelley calls Lovelady to join him. You've invented that. It's your fabrication. It is not based on any testimonial evidence whatsoever. It's a lie you have to tell because you can't find any other way of getting Lovelady and Shelley on to the Elm Street Ext. within 25 seconds.
You have swallowed down Kamp's 'Lovelady' image without question even though it has been demonstrated that this image is dubious, to say the least, and now it's been pointed out that it's physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to do what they attested to in their WC testimonies AND be on Elm St within 25 seconds, you've had to invent this lie. If it's any comfort, Lance "I think I've Had An Accident" Payette did exactly the same thing.

On the other hand, my own identification of Lovelady in Darnell does not require me to lie my way through an explanation and makes perfect sense with the known timings:

   Bump regarding the positions of Officer Baker, Lovelady, and Calvery.  We see Baker has already run passed the Island, and Lovelady is Still directly in front of the TSBD. This means those 2 Guys alongside the "Getaway" car on the Couch still frame can Not be Shelley & Lovelady. Those 2 Guys we see on the Couch still frame have just exited the "getaway" car.

[Royell Storing]

Royell steered me to a Couch clip which is the best quality I've come across:



I cropped and blew up the two men:



There is a hint of something on the shirt in this image that may be a pattern but I wouldn't have an idea how to get it to stand out.
Maybe someone who knows what they're doing can have a go.

  Bump regarding the 2 Guys having just exited the "getaway" car.

[Royell Storing]

Of course I remember, Pinko.
This is the lie...sorry, fabrication... I'm talking about, so obviously I remember.
I've argued all along that Shelley immediately ran from the steps and met Gloria coming the other way. He states this in his affidavit. (People such as yourself have to ignore the fact that, during his WC testimony, Shelley completely changes his story, stating that he stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before Gloria ran up).
The 'fabrication' I have to keep calling you out on is the part where Shelley calls Lovelady to join him. You've invented that. It's your fabrication. It is not based on any testimonial evidence whatsoever. It's a lie you have to tell because you can't find any other way of getting Lovelady and Shelley on to the Elm Street Ext. within 25 seconds.
You have swallowed down Kamp's 'Lovelady' image without question even though it has been demonstrated that this image is dubious, to say the least, and now it's been pointed out that it's physically impossible for Shelley and Lovelady to do what they attested to in their WC testimonies AND be on Elm St within 25 seconds, you've had to invent this lie. If it's any comfort, Lance "I think I've Had An Accident" Payette did exactly the same thing.

On the other hand, my own identification of Lovelady in Darnell does not require me to lie my way through an explanation and makes perfect sense with the known timings:

    Bump! This is too important to simply let pass by. Here we see Officer Baker and Lovelady right in front of the TSBD front door. And at the same time, the Couch still frame shows those 2 Guys right alongside the "getaway" car. Why? Because these 2 Guys just got out of that car and are now distancing themselves from this intended "getaway" car. Those 2 Guys are obviously Not Shelley & Lovelady. We see Lovelady is still standing in front of the TSBD at the very same time that these 2 Guys are moving away from the car. The only way these 2 Guys could be in this position 20 seconds after the Kill Shot, is if they had just got out of that car. 

[John Corbett]

    Bump! This is too important to simply let pass by. Here we see Officer Baker and Lovelady right in front of the TSBD front door. And at the same time, the Couch still frame shows those 2 Guys right alongside the "getaway" car. Why? Because these 2 Guys just got out of that car and are now distancing themselves from this intended "getaway" car. Those 2 Guys are obviously Not Shelley & Lovelady. We see Lovelady is still standing in front of the TSBD at the very same time that these 2 Guys are moving away from the car. The only way these 2 Guys could be in this position 20 seconds after the Kill Shot, is if they had just got out of that car.

I can't even follow your tortured logic. In fact, I don't see any evidence of logic at all. Everything you are arguing is one assumption after another. You assume the car was a "getaway". You assume two guys just got out of that car. You assume who those two guys are. Do you ever propose anything that is based on actual evidence.

[Royell Storing]

I can't even follow your tortured logic. In fact, I don't see any evidence of logic at all. Everything you are arguing is one assumption after another. You assume the car was a "getaway". You assume two guys just got out of that car. You assume who those two guys are. Do you ever propose anything that is based on actual evidence.

   The "theory" has always been that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes we see alongside the car on the Couch Film, was Shelley & Lovelady. As you can see, Lovelady is still in front of the TSBD front door, when these 2 Guys are walking alongside the car. Both still frames showing the 2 Guys and Lovelady on the TSBD steps, also include Officer Baker. Baker is in both still frames. This Proves these 2 still frames are happening almost simultaneously. Like building a wall, I have put together the "getaway" car one brick at a time. Some bricks bigger than others, but still 1 at a time. I have just destroyed the "theory" that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes are Shelley and Lovelady. Do you know of any 2 male eyewitnesses, that would have been able to get next to the "getaway" car only 20 seconds after the kill shot? Those 2 Guys/Silhouettes on the Couch Film still frame had to of exited the car. 

[John Corbett]

   The "theory" has always been that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes we see alongside the car on the Couch Film, was Shelley & Lovelady. As you can see, Lovelady is still in front of the TSBD front door, when these 2 Guys are walking alongside the car. Both still frames showing the 2 Guys and Lovelady on the TSBD steps, also include Officer Baker. Baker is in both still frames. This Proves these 2 still frames are happening almost simultaneously. Like building a wall, I have put together the "getaway" car one brick at a time. Some bricks bigger than others, but still 1 at a time. I have just destroyed the "theory" that the 2 Guys/Silhouettes are Shelley and Lovelady. Do you know of any 2 male eyewitnesses, that would have been able to get next to the "getaway" car only 20 seconds after the kill shot? Those 2 Guys/Silhouettes on the Couch Film still frame had to of exited the car.

So you don't think Baker could be in the same location at two different times.

Still waiting for your proof the car was a getaway car.