Shelley intercepted Calvery at the "island" about 10 seconds after final shot

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

Please freshen my memory.

When have I said anything about Officer Smith's actions in the context of Gloria Calvery's post-final-shot actions?

-- Tom

   So where exactly where do you stand on this issue? You know the tick-tock does not permit Calvery encountering both Lovelady and Officer Smith.

[Tom Graves]

So where exactly where do you stand on this issue? You know the tick-tock does not permit Calvery encountering both Lovelady and Officer Smith.

Dear Comrade Storing,

By comparing the witnesses' statements with the combined Couch-Darnell clip and Mark Tyler's DPD-radio-transmissions-and-photographic-images-synchronized animation, it seems plausible to me that Calvery could have been intercepted simultaneously by "best man" Shelley (with or without his sidekick, Lovelady) and Officer Smith 10-15 seconds after the final shot and given them the news that JFK had been shot before she continued on her way, about ten seconds later, to the TSBD steps . . . where we can see her in Couch-Darnell as she's very likely bellowing out to Buell Wesley Frazier, Sarah Stanton and bald-headed Joe Molina (whom I believe is right in front of her), et al., the bad news.

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

By comparing the witnesses' statements with the combined Couch-Darnell clip and Mark Tyler's DPD-radio-transmissions-and-photographic-images-synchronized animation, it seems plausible to me that Calvery could have been intercepted simultaneously by "best man" Shelley (with or without his sidekick, Lovelady) and Officer Smith 10-15 seconds after the final shot and given them the news that JFK had been shot before she continued on her way, about ten seconds later, to the TSBD steps . . . where we can see her in Couch-Darnell as she's very likely bellowing out to Buell Wesley Frazier, Sarah Stanton and bald-headed Joe Molina (whom I believe is right in front of her), et al., the bad news.

-- Tom

   (1) What DPD Radio Transmissions impact the possibility of Calvery being the BACK we see on the Darnell Snippet? (2) You originally claimed we were seeing the BACK of Calvery as she was telling Lovelady about seeing JFK being shot. Are you Now claiming we are seeing the back of Calvery as she "bellows" at Frazier at the top of the steps into the TSBD? (3) Do you know of any images showing Shelley being down on the ground in front of the TSBD within your 10 second time stamp?  Thanks

[Tom Graves]

(1) What DPD radio transmissions impact the possibility (sic) of Calvery being the back we see in the Darnell snippet?

(2) You originally claimed we were seeing the back of Calvery as she was telling Lovelady about seeing JFK being shot. Are you Now claiming we are seeing the back of Calvery as she "bellows" at Frazier at the top of the steps into the TSBD?

(3) Do you know of any images showing Shelley being down on the ground in front of the TSBD within your ten-second time stamp?

Dear Comrade Storing,

It's a pity that you're so terribly confused.

1) Several years ago, Sandy Larsen and I identified big/tall (almost as tall as her tall husband!) Gloria Calvery in the Zapruder film and in the Couch-Darnell clip, the latter of which captured the hectic activity going on near the TSBD about 30 seconds after the final shot. We did this by reading several documents and by viewing and comparing images in the Zapruder film and the Couch-Carnell clip and other photographic images, including those in her high school yearbook and those that were taken of her and her colleagues during the 1963 Christmas season at her place of employment -- the South-West Publishing Company office in the TSBD. In short, we didn't need to listen to DPD radio transmissions to realize that she was standing only about 80 feet from the "island" and about 100 feet from the front steps during the motorcade. In other words, close enough to the latter to get to them within 25 seconds after the final shot.

2) I "originally" thought Calvery was talking with Billy Lovelady on the TSBD steps about 30 seconds after the final shot, and I also used to think that the evil, evil CIA/Mafia killed JFK. Bart Kamp's(?) "bringing out" the stripes in Lovelady's distinctive "checkered" / "plaid" shirt in the Couch-Darnell clip, and my realizing that Buell Wesley Frazier said that Shelley and Lovelady left the steps right after the final shot and started walking in the direction of the triple underpass (i.e., in the direction of the "island") before Calvery came running up to the steps and started bellowing that JFK had been shot, has convinced me that that's not Lovelady on the steps directly in front of Calvery.

3) Unfortunately, Dave Wiegman, Malcolm Couch and Jimmy Darnell were the only three people who were filming the front of the TSBD right after the assassination. If Weigman had simply stayed in his camera car and filmed what was going on around him, he probably would have "captured" Calvery's running to the "island" and her telling Shelley, Officer Smith (and maybe even Willian Nolan Lovelady) that she'd just seen JFK's head get blown off. Ditto Couch and Darnell if they'd started filming a little earlier and pointed their cameras in the right direction.

-- Tom

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

By comparing the witnesses' statements with the combined Couch-Darnell clip and Mark Tyler's DPD-radio-transmissions-and-photographic-images-synchronized animation, it seems plausible to me that Calvery could have been intercepted simultaneously by "best man" Shelley (with or without his sidekick, Lovelady) and Officer Smith 10-15 seconds after the final shot and given them the news that JFK had been shot before she continued on her way, about ten seconds later, to the TSBD steps . . . where we can see her in Couch-Darnell as she's very likely bellowing out to Buell Wesley Frazier, Sarah Stanton and bald-headed Joe Molina (whom I believe is right in front of her), et al., the bad news.

-- Tom

   Bump regarding the claim of DPD Radio-Transmissions. This is another claim that has now been withdrawn. This process of elimination is progress!

[Royell Storing]

Dear Comrade Storing,

It's a pity that you're so terribly confused.

1) Several years ago, Sandy Larsen and I identified big/tall (almost as tall as her tall husband!) Gloria Calvery in the Zapruder film and in the Couch-Darnell clip, the latter of which captured the hectic activity going on near the TSBD about 30 seconds after the final shot. We did this by reading several documents and by viewing and comparing images in the Zapruder film and the Couch-Carnell clip and other photographic images, including those in her high school yearbook and those that were taken of her and her colleagues during the 1963 Christmas season at her place of employment -- the South-West Publishing Company office in the TSBD. In short, we didn't need to listen to DPD radio transmissions to realize that she was standing only about 80 feet from the "island" and about 100 feet from the front steps during the motorcade. In other words, close enough to the latter to get to them within 25 seconds after the final shot.

2) I "originally" thought Calvery was talking with Billy Lovelady on the TSBD steps about 30 seconds after the final shot, and I also used to think that the evil, evil CIA/Mafia killed JFK. Bart Kamp's(?) "bringing out" the stripes in Lovelady's distinctive "checkered" / "plaid" shirt in the Couch-Darnell clip, and my realizing that Buell Wesley Frazier said that Shelley and Lovelady left the steps right after the final shot and started walking in the direction of the triple underpass (i.e., in the direction of the "island") before Calvery came running up to the steps and started bellowing that JFK had been shot, has convinced me that that's not Lovelady on the steps directly in front of Calvery.

3) Unfortunately, Dave Wiegman, Malcolm Couch and Jimmy Darnell were the only three people who were filming the front of the TSBD right after the assassination. If Weigman had simply stayed in his camera car and filmed what was going on around him, he probably would have "captured" Calvery's running to the "island" and her telling Shelley, Officer Smith (and maybe even Willian Nolan Lovelady) that she'd just seen JFK's head get blown off. Ditto Couch and Darnell if they'd started filming a little earlier and pointed their cameras in the right direction.

-- Tom

      In the course of your research and the morphing of the "evidence" you claim to have found,  have you ever viewed the Couch Film Reverse-Negative? 

[Tom Graves]

In the course of your research and the morphing of the "evidence" you claim to have found,  have you ever viewed the Couch Film Reverse-Negative?

Is that something like a wilderness of mirrors?

[Dan O'meara]

Dear Comrade Storing,

It's a pity that you're so terribly confused.

1) Several years ago, Sandy Larsen and I identified big/tall (almost as tall as her tall husband!) Gloria Calvery in the Zapruder film and in the Couch-Darnell clip, the latter of which captured the hectic activity going on near the TSBD about 30 seconds after the final shot. We did this by reading several documents and by viewing and comparing images in the Zapruder film and the Couch-Carnell clip and other photographic images, including those in her high school yearbook and those that were taken of her and her colleagues during the 1963 Christmas season at her place of employment -- the South-West Publishing Company office in the TSBD. In short, we didn't need to listen to DPD radio transmissions to realize that she was standing only about 80 feet from the "island" and about 100 feet from the front steps during the motorcade. In other words, close enough to the latter to get to them within 25 seconds after the final shot.

2) I "originally" thought Calvery was talking with Billy Lovelady on the TSBD steps about 30 seconds after the final shot, and I also used to think that the evil, evil CIA/Mafia killed JFK. Bart Kamp's(?) "bringing out" the stripes in Lovelady's distinctive "checkered" / "plaid" shirt in the Couch-Darnell clip, and my realizing that Buell Wesley Frazier said that Shelley and Lovelady left the steps right after the final shot and started walking in the direction of the triple underpass (i.e., in the direction of the "island") before Calvery came running up to the steps and started bellowing that JFK had been shot, has convinced me that that's not Lovelady on the steps directly in front of Calvery.

3) Unfortunately, Dave Wiegman, Malcolm Couch and Jimmy Darnell were the only three people who were filming the front of the TSBD right after the assassination. If Weigman had simply stayed in his camera car and filmed what was going on around him, he probably would have "captured" Calvery's running to the "island" and her telling Shelley, Officer Smith (and maybe even Willian Nolan Lovelady) that she'd just seen JFK's head get blown off. Ditto Couch and Darnell if they'd started filming a little earlier and pointed their cameras in the right direction.

-- Tom

I know we're going to agree to disagree about this but I'd like to say why I don't accept your notion that Gloria is talking to someone other than Lovelady on the steps.




Of the white males on the steps at the time of the shooting, Shelley was wearing a black suit jacket (and had a 'pompadour' hairdo), Otis Williams had a white office shirt on and was wearing glasses and Joe Molina (the only other bald, white male on the steps besides Lovelady) was also wearing a pure white office shirt.
The man in the picture above is clearly not wearing a black suit jacket or a brilliant white office shirt (note how the white of Karan Hicks stands out). I would actually argue that there is a hint of Lovelady's checkered pattern in the man's shirt. By a process of elimination regarding the clothes it can only be Lovelady.
Also, Joe Molina specifically places his encounter with Gloria and Karan in the lobby. He is clear that he is standing in the lobby when he has his interaction with Gloria.
Also, in the last images we have of the front steps before Darnell (Weigman, Altgens), Lovelady is stood, more or less, in the same location we see above - on the west side of the steps a few steps up.
Finally there is Lovelady's account of being on the steps when Gloria came up to the steps. An analysis of the Darnell footage reveals that Hicks has just started to climb the steps, indicating she has literally just arrived there. There is no time for the man to be anyone other than Lovelady.

I understand how compelling Kemp's image is but, IMO, there is too much evidence against this identification. Also, Frazier isn't half as authoritative as you present him as being. He 'believes' "Billy and them walked down toward that direction". I get the impression he doesn't really know, he just knows that he stayed in place.