Who Were the Two Men Heading *Down* the Stairs at NLT 12:50?

[Jack Nessan]

    There is a difference between a DPD "Officer" and a DPD Motorcycle Officer. A DPD motorcycle officer always wears a DPD UNIFORM and wears a White Helmet. DPD  Officer Buddy Walthers and DPD Officer Roger Craig were wearing dress suits that day. DPD Officer Luke Mooney was also wearing a dress suit. All 3 of these DPD Officers were wearing suits and were back inside the railroad yard immediately after the kill shot. There were other DPD Officers back inside the railroad yard that were wearing suits. This is what Buddy Walthers was referring to. DPD Officers that were wearing suits.

 This is what Buddy Walthers was referring to. DPD Officers that were wearing suits.


Now your knowledge knows no bounds, now it extends to reading the minds of the witnesses, how convenient.

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This is a partial list of the motorcycle cops present that day.

The motorcade consisted of numerous cars, police motorcycles and press
buses:

Included in this group of officers were:

Three two-wheel Dallas police motorcycle officers under the command of
Sgt. S. Q. Bellah.
 
Five two-wheel motorcycle officers.
 

Four Dallas Police motorcycle escorts, two on each side of the
presidential limousine, flanking the rear bumper: Billy Joe Martin and
Robert W. “Bobby” Hargis (left), and James M. Chaney and Douglas L.
Jackson (right).[107]
 

Dallas Police motorcycle escorts
H.B. McLain and Marion L. Baker.

Dallas Police motorcycle escorts J.W. Courson and C.A. Haygood.

Dallas Police motorcycle escorts R. Smart and B.J. Dale.

Solo three-wheel Dallas Police motorcycle escort.
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Most of the officers were never interviewed. Making a blanket assertion that you know what Detective Walthers thought or meant based on a photo is ridiculous. To conclude that a snapshot of an officer walking somehow indicates he was part of this wild eyed conspiracy is beyond rational.

There is absolutely nothing that can be learned from a snapshot photo as to who was where and when. Let alone develope a conspiracy theory based on a photo of someone you seem unable to explain.

[Royell Storing]

  Officer Harkness gave WC Testimony. He details the order in which he did things after the kill shot. And YOU wanted to use the Nat Geo snippet as evidence? Unfortunately, you were unaware that the snippet shows the Harkness 3 Wheel Motorcycle double parked right next to Inspector Sawyer's car. Why? Because Harkness helped load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car. Time? 12:37 PM. From this point, Harkness helped secure the area behind the TSBD. This is where we see him and the alleged Officer Haygood on the Darnell Film. Time? 12:38 PM. It is impossible for Officer Haygood to be inside the railroad yard at 12:38. And remember that we see this same cop earlier on the Darnell Film. It is impossible for Haygood to be back inside the railroad yard at 12:37 PM. Haygood made a documented 12:35 radio transmission from his motorcycle parked near the Triple Underpass. From 12:35 PM on, Haygood was conducting interviews near his motorcycle. Tague's testimony corroborates this. I have steadfastly been all over this issue for 2+ years now. Every single piece of evidence I continue to gather further Proves the DPD motorcycle cop on the Darnell Film can Not be Haygood.

[John Corbett]

  Officer Harkness gave WC Testimony. He details the order in which he did things after the kill shot. And YOU wanted to use the Nat Geo snippet as evidence? Unfortunately, you were unaware that the snippet shows the Harkness 3 Wheel Motorcycle double parked right next to Inspector Sawyer's car. Why? Because Harkness helped load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car. Time? 12:37 PM. From this point, Harkness helped secure the area behind the TSBD. This is where we see him and the alleged Officer Haygood on the Darnell Film. Time? 12:38 PM. It is impossible for Officer Haygood to be inside the railroad yard at 12:38. And remember that we see this same cop earlier on the Darnell Film. It is impossible for Haygood to be back inside the railroad yard at 12:37 PM. Haygood made a documented 12:35 radio transmission from his motorcycle parked near the Triple Underpass. From 12:35 PM on, Haygood was conducting interviews near his motorcycle. Tague's testimony corroborates this. I have steadfastly been all over this issue for 2+ years now. Every single piece of evidence I continue to gather further Proves the DPD motorcycle cop on the Darnell Film can Not be Haygood.

For the sake of argument, let's say you are correct that the motorcycle cop is not Haygood. What difference does that make?

[Royell Storing]

For the sake of argument, let's say you are correct that the motorcycle cop is not Haygood. What difference does that make?

   "What difference does that make?".  Your asking that question says a lot regarding your limited foundational knowledge of the JFK Assassination. You merit your seat at the kiddie table. Put in the time and do the research.

[Jack Nessan]

   Officer Harkness gave WC Testimony. He details the order in which he did things after the kill shot. And YOU wanted to use the Nat Geo snippet as evidence? Unfortunately, you were unaware that the snippet shows the Harkness 3 Wheel Motorcycle double parked right next to Inspector Sawyer's car. Why? Because Harkness helped load Euins into Inspector Sawyer's car. Time? 12:37 PM. From this point, Harkness helped secure the area behind the TSBD. This is where we see him and the alleged Officer Haygood on the Darnell Film. Time? 12:38 PM. It is impossible for Officer Haygood to be inside the railroad yard at 12:38. And remember that we see this same cop earlier on the Darnell Film. It is impossible for Haygood to be back inside the railroad yard at 12:37 PM. Haygood made a documented 12:35 radio transmission from his motorcycle parked near the Triple Underpass. From 12:35 PM on, Haygood was conducting interviews near his motorcycle. Tague's testimony corroborates this. I have steadfastly been all over this issue for 2+ years now. Every single piece of evidence I continue to gather further Proves the DPD motorcycle cop on the Darnell Film can Not be Haygood.

Every single piece of evidence I continue to gather further Proves the DPD motorcycle cop on the Darnell Film can Not be Haygood.

and that means what? That there was another DPD cop in Dealey Plaza?
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Most likely there are others but so far two different officers, Walters and Harkness, both made the same claim that there were a number of officers present behind the TSBD. Your claim was that only Harkness and Haygood were there. Obviously, that is not true. The other officers, if interviewed, would have made the same claim. You also made the claim that only detectives in suits were present, but that also is not true.

Det. Walters

Mr. WALTHERS. And at that time I heard the shots as well as everybody else, but as we got over this fence, and a lot of officers and people were just rummaging through the train yards back in this parking area.
Mr. LIEBELER. In the parking area down there? West of the Texas School Book Depository Building between the Texas School Book Depository and the railroad tracks?
Mr. WALTHERS. Yes; and the discussion came up among several of the officers, "Were there any shots fired?" And I said, "Well, they sounded like rifle shots to me." At the time no one knew---in our crowd they were sure the shots had been fired though because of the reports---we heard the noise, and I left then and went back up here and came back onto the street.

 

 

DPD Harkness

Mr. BELIN - Had the building been sealed off at that time?
Mr. HARKNESS - Not to my knowledge. There were several officers around it, but I don't know whether it had been sealed off or not.
Mr. BELIN - In the process of sealing off the building, what did you do?
Mr. HARKNESS - Asked for a squad.
Mr. BELIN - How long did it take you after that to have the back part sealed off?
Mr. HARKNESS - The guard was arriving by the time I got off my motorcycle. There was already additional squads en route.
Mr. BELIN - How soon after 12:36 p.m., would you say the building was sealed off?
Mr. HARKNESS - It was sealed off then because I was back there and two other men.

Exactly what is the point you are trying to make with the photo that you reference? Currently it seems the only point is that you do not have a point other than there is maybe or maybe not an unidentified officer in a photo taken after the assassination.

[Royell Storing]

Every single piece of evidence I continue to gather further Proves the DPD motorcycle cop on the Darnell Film can Not be Haygood.

and that means what? That there was another DPD cop in Dealey Plaza?
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Most likely there are others but so far two different officers, Walters and Harkness, both made the same claim that there were a number of officers present behind the TSBD. Your claim was that only Harkness and Haygood were there. Obviously, that is not true. The other officers, if interviewed, would have made the same claim. You also made the claim that only detectives in suits were present, but that also is not true.

Det. Walters

Mr. WALTHERS. And at that time I heard the shots as well as everybody else, but as we got over this fence, and a lot of officers and people were just rummaging through the train yards back in this parking area.
Mr. LIEBELER. In the parking area down there? West of the Texas School Book Depository Building between the Texas School Book Depository and the railroad tracks?
Mr. WALTHERS. Yes; and the discussion came up among several of the officers, "Were there any shots fired?" And I said, "Well, they sounded like rifle shots to me." At the time no one knew---in our crowd they were sure the shots had been fired though because of the reports---we heard the noise, and I left then and went back up here and came back onto the street.

 

 

DPD Harkness

Mr. BELIN - Had the building been sealed off at that time?
Mr. HARKNESS - Not to my knowledge. There were several officers around it, but I don't know whether it had been sealed off or not.
Mr. BELIN - In the process of sealing off the building, what did you do?
Mr. HARKNESS - Asked for a squad.
Mr. BELIN - How long did it take you after that to have the back part sealed off?
Mr. HARKNESS - The guard was arriving by the time I got off my motorcycle. There was already additional squads en route.
Mr. BELIN - How soon after 12:36 p.m., would you say the building was sealed off?
Mr. HARKNESS - It was sealed off then because I was back there and two other men.

Exactly what is the point you are trying to make with the photo that you reference? Currently it seems the only point is that you do not have a point other than there is maybe or maybe not an unidentified officer in a photo taken after the assassination.

   You are confused. Officer Haygood was a MOTORCYCLE Officer. He is supposed to be the Only MOTORCYCLE Officer, (WHITE HELMET), back inside the Rail Road yard immediately following the kill shot. You keep referencing "Officers" or "DPD Cops" being back inside the rail road yard. Those law enforcement officers you mention are NOT MOTORCYCLE Officers. There is supposed to be only 1 MOTORCYCLE Officer back inside the railroad yard during this time period. That would be HAYGOOD. The MOTORCYCLE Officer, (White Helmet), we see with Officer Harkness in the Darnell still frame is alleged to be MOTORCYCLE Officer Haygood. I have documented the timestamp of this Darnell still frame image being 12:38 PM. Haygood made a 12:35 police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked near the Triple Underpass. Haygood then stayed right there and interviewed assassination witnesses. Couch filmed Haygood being in this position when Couch traveled down Elm St. for the 2nd time. The 12:38 PM time stamp of the images showing Haygood with Harkness is Impossible. Haygood can not be in 2 places at the same time. That ain't Haygood with Officer Harkness on the Darnell Film. What we are seeing is an impostor. Where is this motorcycle cop's motorcycle? He has none. He is a phony. The timelines of Buddy Walthers and Harkness, (both were filmed by Darnell with this Phony Motorcycle Cop), corroborate my 12:38 time stamp.

[Jack Nessan]

   You are confused. Officer Haygood was a MOTORCYCLE Officer. He is supposed to be the Only MOTORCYCLE Officer, (WHITE HELMET), back inside the Rail Road yard immediately following the kill shot. You keep referencing "Officers" or "DPD Cops" being back inside the rail road yard. Those law enforcement officers you mention are NOT MOTORCYCLE Officers. There is supposed to be only 1 MOTORCYCLE Officer back inside the railroad yard during this time period. That would be HAYGOOD. The MOTORCYCLE Officer, (White Helmet), we see with Officer Harkness in the Darnell still frame is alleged to be MOTORCYCLE Officer Haygood. I have documented the timestamp of this Darnell still frame image being 12:38 PM. Haygood made a 12:35 police radio transmission from his motorcycle parked near the Triple Underpass. Haygood then stayed right there and interviewed assassination witnesses. Couch filmed Haygood being in this position when Couch traveled down Elm St. for the 2nd time. The 12:38 PM time stamp of the images showing Haygood with Harkness is Impossible. Haygood can not be in 2 places at the same time. That ain't Haygood with Officer Harkness on the Darnell Film. What we are seeing is an impostor. Where is this motorcycle cop's motorcycle? He has none. He is a phony. The timelines of Buddy Walthers and Harkness, (both were filmed by Darnell with this Phony Motorcycle Cop), corroborate my 12:38 time stamp.

"Officer Haygood was a MOTORCYCLE Officer. He is supposed to be the Only MOTORCYCLE Officer, (WHITE HELMET), back inside the Rail Road yard immediately following the kill shot"

Supposed to be? Were they assigned certain positions in case the President was shot while in Dealey Plaza? The net result was they went where they thought they would be needed.

It increasingly appears you want a certain narrative, and the information (Photo) is being twisted to support your predetermined theory.

There were motorcycle cops all over Dealey Plaza'
This is a partial list of the motorcycle cops present that day.

The motorcade consisted of numerous cars, police motorcycles and press
buses:

Included in this group of officers were:

Three two-wheel Dallas police motorcycle officers under the command of
Sgt. S. Q. Bellah.
 
Five two-wheel motorcycle officers.
 

Four Dallas Police motorcycle escorts, two on each side of the
presidential limousine, flanking the rear bumper: Billy Joe Martin and
Robert W. “Bobby” Hargis (left), and James M. Chaney and Douglas L.
Jackson (right).[107]
 

Dallas Police motorcycle escorts
H.B. McLain and Marion L. Baker.

Dallas Police motorcycle escorts J.W. Courson and C.A. Haygood.

Dallas Police motorcycle escorts R. Smart and B.J. Dale.

Solo three-wheel Dallas Police motorcycle escort.