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[Bill Brown]

Not very reliable, if he cannot corroborate your version of Callaway. Is he?
 
Mr. BALL. What side of the street did you see him coming down on?
Mr. GUINYARD. He was on the left side--when he come down--it would be the east side.

Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Callaway there?
Mr. GUINYARD. We was together; yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. You were together?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir; he was at the front and I was at the back.

Mr. BALL. You and Callaway were standing at the alleyway?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes

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I find it laughable how you insult others, then go on to make baseless declarations.
Yes, Guinyard is at the back of the lot and TC is south at the office.

It doesn't mean SG saw or heard any more than Ted - He heard 3 shots - Benavides heard 3 shots and picked up (what he called) all the shells.
As soon as the shots go off TC immediately runs toward tenth st. but he goes no farther than the alley.
Guinyard was ten feet from Patton - He said he could see the corner without moving. I don't believe him.
Look at the map - there is an outbuilding/garage in his way - he would've had to move to Patton to see up to the corner.

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The problem - Guinyard describes the discharging of shells along Patton and that would be up at the corner
He didn't go that far north to see it.  - He said he and TC were in the ally and Ted was in front of him.
He was on Patton at the alley - TC was just south of that - by then the killer was further south on his way to Jefferson.

The Commission made little to no effort to verify his account. There’s no indication on exhibit maps or
street-level photographs to support his perspective or location—unlike what was done with Callaway, Scoggins, Markham
It seems they didn’t place much weight or significance on his testimony. - He saw the killer run away. That's it.

How does any of your above drivel correct your error that "Callaway is ahead of Guinyard"?

The two men were standing 50 feet from each other and Oswald, going south on Patton, would encounter Guinyard first.

[Michael Capasse]

How does any of your above drivel correct your error that "Callaway is ahead of Guinyard"?

The two men were standing 50 feet from each other and Oswald, going south on Patton, would encounter Guinyard first.

  Once again, you're resorting to insults and unfounded claims.
What is your source for this supposed 50-foot difference? - time of shots? Then they both moved.
Guinyard said he never went farther north than the alleyway. TC was then in front of him.
How does SG see shells dropped along Patton? No one else did.

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Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Callaway there?
Mr. GUINYARD. We was together; yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. You were together?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir; he was at the front and I was at the back.

Mr. BALL. You and Callaway were standing at the alleyway?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes

I'm trying to figure out how Guinyard could see shells dropped along Patton. He went no further than the ally way.
I'm not sure you even know what it is you're arguing.

[Bill Brown]

Once again, you're resorting to insults and unfounded claims.
What is your source for this supposed 50-foot difference? - time of shots? Then they both moved.
Guinyard said he never went farther north than the alleyway. TC was then in front of him.
How does SG see shells dropped along Patton? No one else did.

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Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Callaway there?
Mr. GUINYARD. We was together; yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. You were together?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir; he was at the front and I was at the back.

Mr. BALL. You and Callaway were standing at the alleyway?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes

I'm trying to figure out how Guinyard could see shells dropped along Patton. He went no further than the ally way.
I'm not sure you even know what it is you're arguing.

Again, Callaway was (roughly) 50 feet closer to Jefferson than was Guinyard, who was at the alley.
And no one said anything about Guinyard finding any shells.
Learn the case.

[Bill Brown]

The two-story brown brick building seen in the background (where the two kids are playing out front) is at the alley and Patton.  Callaway was (roughly) fifty feet south of that building, i.e. Callaway is (roughly) fifty feet south of the alley.

Capasse... Learn the case or shut the f*** up.  When you're running your mouth, you're not listening.

[Michael Capasse]

Again, Callaway was (roughly) 50 feet closer to Jefferson than was Guinyard, who was at the alley.

Now you're just arguing with yourself. Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, either you have evidence Guinyard went north of the ally or you don't.

And no one said anything about Guinyard finding any shells.

Who did say that?

[Bill Brown]

Not very reliable, if he cannot corroborate your version of Callaway. Is he?
 
Mr. BALL. What side of the street did you see him coming down on?
Mr. GUINYARD. He was on the left side--when he come down--it would be the east side.

Mr. BALL. Did you see Mr. Callaway there?
Mr. GUINYARD. We was together; yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. You were together?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir; he was at the front and I was at the back.

Mr. BALL. You and Callaway were standing at the alleyway?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes

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I find it laughable how you insult others, then go on to make baseless declarations.
Yes, Guinyard is at the back of the lot and TC is south at the office.

It doesn't mean SG saw or heard any more than Ted - He heard 3 shots - Benavides heard 3 shots and picked up (what he called) all the shells.
As soon as the shots go off TC immediately runs toward tenth st. but he goes no farther than the alley.
Guinyard was ten feet from Patton - He said he could see the corner without moving. I don't believe him.
Look at the map - there is an outbuilding/garage in his way - he would've had to move to Patton to see up to the corner.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48580593201_076d86f41f_b.jpg

The problem - Guinyard describes the discharging of shells along Patton and that would be up at the corner
He didn't go that far north to see it.  - He said he and TC were in the ally and Ted was in front of him.
He was on Patton at the alley - TC was just south of that - by then the killer was further south on his way to Jefferson.

The Commission made little to no effort to verify his account. There’s no indication on exhibit maps or
street-level photographs to support his perspective or location—unlike what was done with Callaway, Scoggins, Markham
It seems they didn’t place much weight or significance on his testimony. - He saw the killer run away. That's it.

Mr. BALL. You were together?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes, sir; he was at the front and I was at the back.

Yes.

The Dootch Motor Co. (Harris Brothers) lot faced Jefferson.  The back of the lot was up against the alley.  So yes, Callaway was at the front (closer to Jefferson) and Guinyard was at the back (the alley).

The problem - Guinyard describes the discharging of shells along Patton and that would be up at the corner
He didn't go that far north to see it.

Guinyard, standing on the sidewalk, would easily see Oswald throw down shell casings.  Maybe your problem is that you're unaware of where two of the shell casings were found.

Like I said, learn the case.

Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis each found a shell casing.  Both shells were located on the side of the house they lived in; the side facing Patton, not Tenth.  Guinyard, standing on the sidewalk on Patton, sees Oswald throw down a couple shell casings once he (Oswald) turned the corner from Tenth onto Patton.

[Michael Capasse]

Yes.

The Dootch Motor Co. (Harris Brothers) lot faced Jefferson.  The back of the lot was up against the alley.  So yes, Callaway was at the front (closer to Jefferson) and Guinyard was at the back (the alley).


Guinyard, standing on the sidewalk, would easily see Oswald throw down shell casings.  Maybe your problem is that you're unaware of where two of the shell casings were found.

Like I said, learn the case.

Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis each found a shell casing.  Both shells were located on the side of the house they lived in; the side facing Patton, not Tenth.  Guinyard, standing on the sidewalk on Patton, sees Oswald throw down a couple shell casings once he (Oswald) turned the corner from Tenth onto Patton.

  Oh, please...Get out of your own way.
I'm talking about this "...rolling them with his hand.." SG would not be able to see from that distance.

Mr. GUINYARD. He came through there running and knocking empty shells out of his pistol and he had it up just like this with his hand.

Mr. BALL. With which hand?
Mr. GUINYARD. With his right hand; just kicking them out.

Mr. BALL. He had it up?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes; he had it up just like this.

Mr. BALL. How was he kicking them out?
Mr. GUINYARD. He was rolling them with his hand--with his thumb.

Mr. BALL. Rolling them with his thumb?
Mr. GUINYARD. Checking them--he had the pistol up just like this [indicating].

Mr. BALL. Did he use his left hand any?
Mr. GUINYARD. No; I never did see him use his left hand.

Mr. BALL. He didn't?
Mr. GUINYARD. No, sir.

  Once again, you make some other argument and have it out with yourself.