Two Wallets? Nope.

[Martin Weidmann]

The evidence is decades old memories, the film as I explained is worthless and an alternate narrative has to make sense, and so far not one CT has come forward with a logical narrative that fits.
But let me try to figure this out for you, the conspirators somehow had E.S.P. that Oswald would have no alibi and be in the immediate vicinity, so they killed an innocent cop and dropped a wallet to link Oswald to the crime but the initial dumbass cops don't make the connection and for several decades kept the wallet discovery to themselves?? Even if I try and knowing all your facts, I still can't provide a decent narrative and I guess that's why the CT's keep their stupid theories to themselves!

JohnM

No, on the same day the shooting happened, the TV crew confirmed it was a wallet that the officer was looking at.
The film is only worthless to you, because you don't like what it shows.
Barrett seems to have no memory problems in the interview.

But let me try to figure this out for you, the conspirators somehow had E.S.P. that Oswald would have no alibi and be in the immediate vicinity, so they killed an innocent cop and dropped a wallet to link Oswald to the crime but the initial dumbass cops don't make the connection and for several decades kept the wallet discovery to themselves?? Even if I try and knowing all your facts, I still can't provide a decent narrative and I guess that's why the CT's keep their stupid theories to themselves!

please never ever try to figure something out. You're not very good at it.

[Martin Weidmann]

So almost a dozen civilians would send an innocent man to certain death, seriously? Could you be tricked into giving false evidence?

Unbelievable, just give it up Michael/Tom, your argument is worthless and has failed!

McDonald took the revolver from Oswald.
McDonald gave the revolver to Carroll.
Carroll gave the revolver to Hill.
Hill kept the revolver on his person till he put his name on it.

Mr. BELIN. Did you keep that gun in your possession until you scratched your name on it?
Mr. HILL. Yes, sir; I did.

Oswald ordered the revolver in the name of his alias, Alek Hidell.



Oswald's application for PO Box 2915



Oswald ordered the revolver, to PO Box, 2915



Seaport sent the revolver to Oswald's PO Box, 2915



The shipping company was Railway Express, PO Box 2915



In Oswald's possessions was a revolver holster.




Multiple eyewitnesses saw Oswald shake the revolver shells from the revolver.

When the police arrived Ishowed [sic] one of them where I saw this man emptying his gun and we found a shell.
Barbara Jeanette Davis, Affidavit

The man that was unloading the gun was the same man I saw tonight as number 2 man in a line up.
Mrs. Virginia Davis, Affidavit

Mr. BELIN - What else did you see?
Mr. BENAVIDES - Then I seen the man turn and walk back to the sidewalk and go on the sidewalk and he walked maybe 5 foot and then kind of stalled. He didn't exactly stop. And he threw one shell and must have took five or six more steps and threw the other shell up, and then he kind of stepped up to a pretty good trot going around the corner.

The revolver shells recovered from the murder scene were exclusively matched to Oswald's revolver.

Mr. EISENBERG. Did you examine the cartridge cases in Exhibit 594 in an attempt to determine whether they had been fired in Exhibit 143, the revolver, to the exclusion of all other revolvers?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. I did.
Mr. EISENBERG. Can you tell us your conclusion?
Mr. CUNNINGHAM. As a result of my examination, it is my opinion that those four cartridge eases, Commission Exhibit 594, were fired in the revolver, Commission Exhibit 143, to the exclusion of all other weapons.




BTW, as I said, you are hopeless at this, try another hobby where you don't have to apply deductive reasoning. 

JohnM

So almost a dozen civilians would send an innocent man to certain death, seriously? Could you be tricked into giving false evidence?

If you don't understand that everybody can be manipulated in some way, then you shouldn't be having this kind of conversation.

Do you seriously believe that it has never happened that an innocent man was jailed for life or even given the death penalty on the basis of unreliable witness testimony?

Ever heard of Rubin Carter?

[John Iacoletti]

This is very simple.  Any wallet found discarded at the scene of a police shooting would be suspicious and likely linked to the murder.  Ironically, even CTers accept this by implication by suggesting it was planted exactly for that purpose.  The police would immediately have radioed in the identity of any persons associated with such a wallet as a potential suspect.  We know that didn't happen.  That tells us what they were not looking at.  Any wallet found at the scene.   What exactly it is then narrows down to Tippit's citation book or the wallet of some witness.  Of those two, it seems much more likely that they would look through it in that manner as Tippit's citation book.  A witness likely just shows them their ID instead of handing it to the police to flip through.   Does anyone know if and where Tippit's citation book for writing tickets was found or left?  I assume it would still be in his car after his murder.

Like "Richard" knows what the police would "immediately do" or what is "likely".

[Richard Smith]

The contrarian mind is quite amusing.  Here it is suggested that Nostradamus-like vision is necessary to suggest what the police would have done following the discovery of a discarded wallet at the scene of a police officer shooting.  HA HA HA.  A discarded wallet at the scene of a cop murder on the street would be highly suspicious.   The police would have every reason to suspect that the owner of the wallet was connected to the crime absent an amazing coincidence that some innocent person had lost their wallet that day at the very scene of the crime and no one else had bothered to pick it up.  It had just laid there in in the open until the crime was committed.  Ironically, the CTer theory that the wallet was planted to frame Oswald is entirely consistent with the conclusion that the police would have cause to believe the wallet's owner was connected to the crime.  And what would the police do upon discovering the identity of a potential cop killing suspect?   We don't need Sherlock Holmes or ESP.  The police would immediately have radioed out the name and description of a potentially dangerous killer on the loose.  That didn't happen.  That sinks the battleship of loony contrarians.

[John Iacoletti]

You can't possibly be this stupid, oh hang on, Hahahaha...

Apparently Gus Rose was possibly that stupid then.

Mr. ROSE. No; he didn't, not right then--he did later. In a minute--I found two cards--I found a card that said "A. Hidell." And I found another card that said "Lee Oswald" on it, and I asked him which of the two was his correct name. He wouldn't tell me at the time, he just said, "You find out."

Oswald's wallet contents with Oswald's name;

1. Oswald's Selective service card
2. Oswald's Social Security card
3. Oswald's Department of Defence Identification
4. Oswald's Certificate of Services in Armed Forces of United States
5. Oswald's U.S. Forces Japanese Identification card
6. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba "New Orleans Chapter
7. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba Committee
8. Oswald's Library card
9. Oswald's Local Board 114 Fort Worth
10. Oswald's VERY FAKE LOOKING Hidell I.D.

Do the Math! LOLOLOLO!

Cool story, bro.  But I'm more interested in the "Oswald's wallet" that Rose looked at and the "Oswald's wallet" that Bentley looked at.

"I asked for his name. He refused to give me his name. I removed his wallet from his back pocket and obtained his identification, and also asked him if he was still living at the Elsberry address and he says, well you find out for yourself."

"What kind of identification did he have?"

"The card that I got this information from was the Dallas Public Library Card. He had other identifications such as driver's license, I believe and credit cards and things like that."

[John Iacoletti]

Seriously, since day one ALL the evidence pointed to Oswald

LOL.

Oswald's rifle.
Oswald's immediate flight from the scene of the crime.
Oswald while in flight, killed a Police Officer.
Oswald resisted arrest and tried to kill more Police with the same weapon linked to the Tippit crime scene.
Oswald's repeated lies while being interrogated.
Oswald's attempted assassination of General Walker.

Claims aren't evidence.  Next?

[John Iacoletti]

I'm not saying that it is Tippit's citation book.  Maybe the police did, for some inexplicable reason, flip through a witness wallet. We don't have enough information to reach a conclusion.

Oh, please.  You are the king of reaching conclusions without enough information.  Why stop now?

[John Iacoletti]

So almost a dozen civilians would send an innocent man to certain death, seriously? Could you be tricked into giving false evidence?

People are easily manipulated by authority figures.  Look at yourself, for example.

P.S. "almost a dozen".  LOL.

McDonald took the revolver from Oswald.
McDonald gave the revolver to Carroll.
Carroll gave the revolver to Hill.
Hill kept the revolver on his person till he put his name on it.

Cool story, bro.  Is that supposed to be a documented and controlled chain of custody?