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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2018, 10:53:54 PM »
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I'm not confused...Just in error about the CE number.....And as you've pointed out the so called palm print has two different CE numbers....It is labeled CE 637 and CE 639.....

You're confused about that too.  CE 637 is the lift.  CE 639 is a photograph (slightly enlarged) of CE 637.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2018, 11:25:59 PM »
You're confused about that too.  CE 637 is the lift.  CE 639 is a photograph (slightly enlarged) of CE 637.

You've just admitted that CE 637 and Ce 639 are basically the same piece of evidence ....Which is a 3' X 5" white card that has a piece of cellophane tape stuck on it and that piece of tape is purportedly a lift of a print.   This is exactly what Tom Alyea said he saw detective day create in the TSBD at about 1:45 that afternoon.

The liars would like us to believe that CE 637 ( CE 639)  is Lee Oswald's palm print that Day claimed he found on the 5/8 inch diameter barrel.   If the barrel is .625 inches in diameter (and it is) then the surface area that would be presented to exposure to a man's palm would be less than 5/8 inch...... or about 3/8 of an inch.  but he photo shows an area of nearly an inch.

Houston we have a problem....The card can be used as a scale to find that the bayonet slot on the right hand side of the lift measures .197 inches across....or 5mm.....  And the width of the bayonet slot on the foregrip of a model 91/38 carcano just happens to be ....5mm    Proving that the lift was taken from the WOODEN foregrip in the area immediately to the rear of the bayonet slot.
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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2018, 11:35:58 PM »
You've just admitted that CE 637 and Ce 639 are basically the same piece of evidence ....Which is a 3' X 5" white card that has a piece of cellophane tape stuck on it and that piece of tape is purportedly a lift of a print.

No they're not.  One is a photograph of the other.  You should at least know the evidence before you pontificate on it.

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   This is exactly what Tom Alyea said he saw detective day create in the TSBD at about 1:45 that afternoon.

Alyea said "he lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards".  Where are the cards, Walt?

(this is actually hearsay from Connie Kritzberg, who not only was not there but who Alyea himself said had inaccuracies in her story)

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2018, 11:57:41 PM »
No they're not.  One is a photograph of the other.  You should at least know the evidence before you pontificate on it.

Alyea said "he lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards".  Where are the cards, Walt?

(this is actually hearsay from Connie Kritzberg, who not only was not there but who Alyea himself said had inaccuracies in her story)

Where are the cards, Walt?

That's a question a dishonest jerk would ask.....because he knows full well I have no idea where those pieces of evidence are.... If they showed that the prints were not of lee Oswald ( and you can bet they were not Lee's prints) then any person with a functioning brain would know that those little while cards probably ignited because they were too hot.

this is actually hearsay from Connie Kritzberg, who not only was not there but who Alyea himself said had inaccuracies in her story)

WRONG!!.....Tom Alyea wrote that he saw Day lift prints from the rifle.....
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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2018, 07:22:07 PM »
I am saying that he did what he was told. The police obviously trusted him to keep his mouth shut.

There is no evidence supporting Day's claim.

Tom Alyea probably valued his job and the wages he earned.    So you're probably right....he did what he was told.   

He obviously was friendly with the DPD.....and no doubt he received stories for his newspaper from the Dallas police, so he wouldn't have bitten the hand that was feeding him.

But none of this changes the fact that he said that he witnessed and filmed detective Day lifting finger prints from the carcano while he was in the TSBD at about 1:45 that afternoon.

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« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2018, 11:21:24 PM »
WRONG!!.....Tom Alyea wrote that he saw Day lift prints from the rifle.....

Really, Walt?  Tell me where Tom Alyea wrote this.

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« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2018, 12:47:06 PM »
And where is the footage of Day lifting fingerprints?

Hey cap.....These prints I lifted from the rifle don't match  the prints we took from our commie patsy!   What do you want to do with them?

Call Rob Caprio and ask him........

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2018, 07:37:17 PM »
Hey cap.....These prints I lifted from the rifle don't match  the prints we took from our commie patsy!   What do you want to do with them?

Call Rob Caprio and ask him........

Another cool story, bro.  Any actual evidence that this happened?