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Offline Steve Taylor

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Re: Privacy Window
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2018, 05:13:11 AM »
  The following is a quotation of the work done in September 1961 at Ford.  I tried to contact Pam Brown unsuccessfully, but I would have asked her about this work order.  I would contend that she was mistaken.  In my opinion the work order specifies removing the old center body pillar and replacing it with one that can be quickly taken apart and reassembled.  (I may be wrong but I remember a pic of the manufacturing of the limo where that area under consideration had a large metal frame, in the shape of a roll bar, which probably held the heavy class in place).
  Notice the document where it says "Provide new glass" and "Provide new glass frames". I am having trouble locating further pages of this document, but I have seen page 2 and if I remember correctly there is no further discussion on the issue.
  I will concede that most of the photos on that day show no partition.  However, Mrs. Kennedy brought the subject up and Mr. Rankin confirmed it.  So I personally will continue to take a look for the partition in photos that I look at in the future. 
     

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Offline Tom Scully

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« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2018, 07:11:07 AM »
Only my opinion, I think you are done (you'll likely disagree), considering the instructions in the entire document.:

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After all traces of the partition glass and drive mechanism were to be removed, the area behind the front seats
was to be resurfaced, without the window slots, and new handrails were installed on that same surface.
Only references specifically to partition glass is accompanied by word, removal.
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Offline Steve Taylor

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« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2018, 10:54:31 AM »
  Good find Tom.  I think you make a good argument for it being removed.  But if you continue to the D2 section of the same document you will see numerous references to part numbers for a new partition.  The page I posted earlier had a handwritten reference to "D2 modification" next to "3. Limousine Partition Glass".  Here is a reference from the D2 section:
   
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 If you read the beginning (pg2), the writer requesting these documents, Thomas Canning, complained that these all reflected pre-assassination modifications and not post-assassination changes about the trunk area, as he requested.  All of this is about as clear as mud to me.
   

Offline Howard Gee

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Re: Privacy Window
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2018, 11:30:05 AM »
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The Pam Brown description above is very good.  It convinces me there's no glass there at all.  There's a photo I found when the car was in the shade during the motorcade - there's no reflection of JBC at all which means there's no glass.

I agree.

Steve still deserves credit for raising the question, as does Tom for his find.

Nice work, guys.

Offline Steve Taylor

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Re: Privacy Window
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2018, 11:54:23 AM »
Thanks Howard.

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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2018, 05:53:43 PM »
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  Good find Tom.  I think you make a good argument for it being removed.  But if you continue to the D2 section of the same document you will see numerous references to part numbers for a new partition.  The page I posted earlier had a handwritten reference to "D2 modification" next to "3. Limousine Partition Glass".  Here is a reference from the D2 section:
   
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 If you read the beginning (pg2), the writer requesting these documents, Thomas Canning, complained that these all reflected pre-assassination modifications and not post-assassination changes about the trunk area, as he requested.  All of this is about as clear as mud to me.
 

       With there being No Doubt regarding the Officer Chaney Lead Car Event having occurred, I believe at this same time the JFK Limo was also Stopped.  This stoppage being witnessed by Earl V. Brown of the DPD. With the SS having a locked and loaded AR-15 sitting at the ready on the floor board of the Queen Mary, I believe there was also weapon(s) inside the trunk of the JFK Limo. It would be foolish to believe that if the Queen Mary and the JFK Limo with the POTUS inside were separated for whatever reason, that the Only weapons inside the JFK Limo protecting the POTUS would be the 2 service revolvers carried by SA Kellerman & SA Greer. I believe when the JFK Limo stopped, the trunk was opened to retrieve whatever firepower was carried inside. With the assorted bric-a-brac connected to the Limo Top that was also piled into that trunk, retrieving weapon(s) amid extremely stressful conditions and time constraints made this a hazardous exercise to accomplish. I believe "changes" to the Limo trunk were a direct result of what transpired at some point between the Kill Shot and the JFK Limo arriving at Parkland Hospital. This is really what is behind the Thomas Canning question. There are Many Details concerning the assassination of JFK we still do Not know 54+ years later. 

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Re: Privacy Window
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2018, 12:53:15 PM »
This from the Ford Museum

" The 1961 Lincoln Continental Presidential Limousine used by John F. Kennedy did feature the glass privacy sliding door windows in the original construction. Here is some additional information in regards to vehicle on our site (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login). I hope this information was helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions."

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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2018, 09:25:02 PM »
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This from the Ford Museum

" The 1961 Lincoln Continental Presidential Limousine used by John F. Kennedy did feature the glass privacy sliding door windows in the original construction. Here is some additional information in regards to vehicle on our site (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login). I hope this information was helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions."

Yes, Ray, but if you took the time to read the above documentation, we already know it was later removed.

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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2018, 09:25:02 PM »