Oswald took 10.2 seconds to fire all three shots.

[Charles Collins]

So, does Wiegman start panning back to his right in response to hearing the first shot, the second shot, or the third shot?

I don’t know why he starts panning back to his right. But since he doesn’t even start filming until Z259, I believe that the first two shots had already happened before he even began filming. Does that answer your question?

[Royell Storing]

If that's the case, then Wiegman, still in the car, must have started panning back to his right in response to the third shot.

    You guys are proving there was a 2nd shooter. If Wiegman is, "panning back to his right in response to the third shot", why is Wiegman NOT panning his camera UPWARD toward the 6TH floor sniper's nest? Wiegman is seated in a convertible, sitting atop the frame of the automobile. Wiegman is seated, "almost on the horizontal". Wiegman is panning his camera, (his Eyes are searching for,) the sound which his Ears hear, "almost on the horizontal". A 2nd shooter from behind was placed, "almost on the horizontal", in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988) BBC. Wiegman's filming/panning is consistent with his hearing that 2nd shooter, "almost on the horizontal".

[Tom Graves]

    You guys are proving there was a 2nd shooter. If Wiegman is, "panning back to his right in response to the third shot", why is Wiegman NOT panning his camera UPWARD toward the 6TH floor sniper's nest? Wiegman is seated in a convertible, sitting atop the frame of the automobile. Wiegman is seated, "almost on the horizontal". Wiegman is panning his camera, (his Eyes are searching for,) the sound which his Ears hear, "almost on the horizontal". A 2nd shooter from behind was placed, "almost on the horizontal", in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988) BBC. Wiegman's filming/panning is consistent with his hearing that 2nd shooter, "almost on the horizontal".

Wowie zowie.

Do you expect all photographic journalists to react as "correctly" as you supposedly do?

Wasn't there a bunch of people at-or-near street level who theoretically could have fired that shot?

Given just a couple of seconds that Wiegman had to pan back and scan the crowd before jumping out of the car and running down the street after the limo, isn't that the logical subject matter to try to capture on film -- the people in the crowd near the place that the sound seemed to come from?

D'oh

[Andrew Mason]

I don’t know why he starts panning back to his right. But since he doesn’t even start filming until Z259, I believe that the first two shots had already happened before he even began filming.

I would put the beginning of Wiegman a bit later based on the Mark Tyler animation (Motorcade 63).  Here is the first frame of Wiegman:



Mark Tyler's suggests that frame z280-81 corresponds to the position in which cars 11 (Cabell), 12 (Nat. Press) and 13 (Camera car 1) are at or very close to the positions shown at the beginning of Wiegman:

[Charles Collins]

I would put the beginning of Wiegman a bit later based on the Mark Tyler animation (Motorcade 63).  Here is the first frame of Wiegman:



Mark Tyler's suggests that frame z280-81 corresponds to the position in which cars 11 (Cabell), 12 (Nat. Press) and 13 (Camera car 1) are at or very close to the positions shown at the beginning of Wiegman:

Thanks, that’s interesting. However it appears to me that, in his handbook, page 17,  Mark Tyler explains that this is just a rough estimate. Here’s a quote:

4.3.3 Zapruder & Wiegman
Circa Z447 (see appendix E.11) is a very interesting point in the
animation as it roughly synchronizes the Wiegman film with the
Zapruder film.

And this is from appendix E.11:





I believe that Dale Myers’ methodology is considerably more involved and exact. I certainly don’t remember all the details but he did document his methodology very well. Take a look for yourself if it interests you.

[Royell Storing]

 Congrats you guys on using the Wiegman Film to prove a 2nd Shooter. 

[Michael Walton]

Question about the Darnell film. Is there anything in the record about the cop who is seen running on that extension street away from the DB entrance? Not Baker with the helmet but the other one? I'm sure there's nothing significant about it but am just curious.

Also, I know the hope is to someday get a pristine copy of that footage but the current copy on YTV is pretty clear so I can't imagine a pristine copy will make a difference. Speculating, with all I know about the case, I do believe there's a possibility that it's LHO in the doorway standing up there on the left.