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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2024, 06:54:06 PM »
Not showing up in Google. What part of the Internet should I be lookin in?



Huh?  How about checking this forum?  Like the post that immediately preceded your bizarre rant.  I'll cut and paste it for you a second time:

Joe Elliott July 27:   "The object that struck Trump was not a bullet. It was a fragment of debris that was propelled by the bullet."   

You are really taking issue with what Trump said a moment after he was shot?  While he was still bleeding from a near death gun shot to the head.  You think he was supposed to break free from the secret service agents surrounding him to "console" people who he didn't know were even shot?  While someone might still be aiming a rifle at him for all he knew.   I've read some unhinged criticisms of Trump but that is tin foil hat derangement syndrome.  And you are also blaming Trump for getting shot?  Wow.  That is frightening to justify an assassination attempt.  How do you come up with that?  The shooter was an unhinged loon.  Another of the many young people of that age group whose mental health suffered from the unnecessary and politically motivated COVID closure of his school.  If anything else motivated him other than mental illness, it was being exposed to the same leftist media propaganda as yourself.  He contributed to ActBlue.  A left-wing group.  Another depressed, lonely loon with leftist political beliefs.  Calling LHO. 

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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2024, 07:12:31 AM »
Joe Elliott July 27:   "The object that struck Trump was not a bullet. It was a fragment of debris that was propelled by the bullet."  You are having as much trouble keeping your story straight as Kamala.  Maybe invest in a teleprompter and hire Obama's speech writer.
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The FBI said it was a bullet or a bullet fragment. And they didn't find non bullet fragments on the stage, they found fragments of a bullet. So I have "changed my story". And I will change my story again if the FBI finally rules that it was a bullet. But I doubt this will happen because Trump should have lost his hearing in his right ear and would not have been almost immediately released by the doctors if he was struck in the ear by a bullet, even a grazing bullet. But I await their report.

My "story" does not always stay "straight", that is always stay the same. It is affected by new evidence.
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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2024, 03:04:49 PM »
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But I doubt this will happen because Trump should have lost his hearing in his right ear and would not have been almost immediately released by the doctors if he was struck in the ear by a bullet, even a grazing bullet. But I await their report.

The supersonic shock wave does not deliver much energy. If the 10 gram bullet traveling at 1000 m/s loses on the order of 1 m/s per m of travel the energy imparted per m is:
1/2 m(v2-(v-1)2)=1/2 m(2v-1)=m(v-.5)=10 joules. And that is distributed in a cone over an entire metre. His ear opening is maybe 1cm and on one side of the cone. So the energy reaching the ear is 1/200th of that or .05J.  And the bullet would have to pass over the ear canal to impart some of that energy to the ear drum. In this case, the bullet passed an inch or so above the ear canal because it struck the upper part of the outer ear. 

What evidence is there that a bullet shock wave event applied directly over the ear canal will cause hearing loss ie. break an ear drum?
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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2024, 12:08:11 PM »


The superficial graze wasn't "a near death gun shot to the head". It was skin-deep in a small area of the outer ear rim ("felt the bullet ripping through the skin", said Trump). Ronny Jackson's description of 2 cm described surrounding swelling. Media described the injury as "Trump was not seriously wounded" and "Trump suffered an ear injury but was not seriously hurt". The psychological trauma was more concerning, said Dr. Sanjay Gupta.



The bullet came within a hair of blowing his head off.  And you are quibbling over whether it was a near death experience?   A near death experience can be both physical and mental.  This incident qualifies on both counts.

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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2024, 11:40:23 PM »
I didn't say it wasn't a near-death experience. It was. The video and photos are very disturbing to watch. The one death and two who had actual serious injuries are heart-wrenching.

I questioned your cult-like exaggeration of Der Messiah's pathetically-tiny wound being life-threatening, when you wrote:

    "While he was still bleeding from a near death gun shot to the head."

There is no "exaggeration" about this.  He was bleeding from a near death gun shot to the head.  The bullet came within an inch of blowing his head off.  It was near death experience even if he had not been hit at all.  I know you are a Trump hater but if you are quibbling about this level of detail it might be time to turn off MSNBC.  To characterize a simple fact as "cult-like exaggeration" is the embodiment of Trump Derangement Syndrome.  Of course, the original point under the discussion was not the severity of Trump's wound but your profoundly stupid criticism that he should have broken away from the secret service to console those injured in the crowd.  One of the most laughable things I've ever read here.  Hopefully you were not serious.  Imagine Trump with his ear shot and bleeding and in a cauldron of secret service agents fighting his way through them to the crowd to administer aid to people he had no idea were injured.  Good grief.

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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2024, 01:45:37 AM »

 Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is real.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Joe Biden's Legacy
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2024, 12:12:15 PM »


Trump's tiny ear graze came closer to missing him all together than hitting him. The outer edge of his right was tilted out from his head.

I made no such "profoundly stupid criticism" about Trump going over over to check on people -- cite it if I did. I wondered why all Trump, after he was lifted up, asked about was the condition of his shoes. I thought he might have had the decency to ask about others who might have took the bullets meant for him; I didn't expect he would go over to see how a "basement dweller" was doing. The Secret Service wouldn't allow that, but they did allow him to speak ... and all he could express was concern about was his shoes.

Attempting to trivialize as a "tiny ear graze" a rifle shot that came within an inch of blowing his head off is laughable.  Trump didn't ask "about the condition of his shoes."   That is a demonstrably false statement.  They were knocked off his feet and he wanted to retrieve them.  That is all beside the point, however,  Again, there is no way that the secret service was going to allow Trump to get back to the podium and ask if anyone was injured.  That is a profoundly stupid criticism. 

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