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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 10:42:15 PM »
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Specifically, CTer, here, means someone who believes that there was a successful conspiracy to murder President Kennedy.


In general, CTer means someone who believes in any large conspiracy that successfully kept a secret for a long time, however unlikely this would be. Examples are:

** A worldwide Jewish conspiracy to do evil things to non-Jewish races.

** illuminati

** Freemason’s

** Apollo Moon Landing Hoax

** UFO coverup


A sign of such a conspiracy theory is if the proponents do not provide a list of all the people involved because the list would be too large and make it too obvious that they believe in a large conspiracy.

And in the past you have claimed that CT'ers are enemies of democracy have you not?

Can we add this to the list of CT attributes?

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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2018, 12:13:14 AM »
See quite a few of you guys on now. What do you think......come on surely you can come up with some sort of concensus view. A short paragraph that defines a CT.

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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2018, 12:57:06 AM »
Now 10 that I recognise here. Surely a team that is comfortable with consistency and voicing opinion can come up with a reasonable definition.

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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2018, 04:34:41 AM »
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Now 10 that I recognise here. Surely a team that is comfortable with consistency and voicing opinion can come up with a reasonable definition.

'Team' haha
I thought we were all 'lone nutters'

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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2018, 03:22:14 PM »
Sorry to break rules of ‘only LNs,’ but surely a CT is one who proposes or adheres to any theory which suggests the involvement of others beside Oswald at any level. Such a definition can be arrived at by defining a LNer: one who proposes or adheres to any theory which posits Oswald to have been sole person involved.

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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2018, 03:32:08 PM »
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As we regularly see the term CT thrown about in the forum, (sometimes kook is used interchangeably by some), I wonder if the LN's cohort that resides here could agree a definition that describes their understanding of what a CT is and thinks.

Once this is agreed to the rest here can determine whether they belong to that group or not. I am going to ask non-LN's to refrain from joining this debate (this may be a forlorn hope I know).

So go to it LN's......what do CT's believe and think?
IMO it is impossible to define CTs into a single definition.
There are so many "Contradictory Theories".
Perhaps that is the only commonality?


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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2018, 04:09:08 PM »
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Sorry to break rules of ‘only LNs,’ but surely a CT is one who proposes or adheres to any theory which suggests the involvement of others beside Oswald at any level. Such a definition can be arrived at by defining a LNer: one who proposes or adheres to any theory which posits Oswald to have been sole person involved.

'surely a CT is one who proposes or adheres to any theory which suggests the involvement of others beside Oswald
> Don't call me Shirley

Until CTer truth* shows up, we're stuck with CTroll Nation's Saint Oswald the Deranged as prime suspect.

* Tongue-in-cheek, for those oblivious to nuance
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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2018, 03:46:50 AM »
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IMO it is impossible to define CTs into a single definition.

I think we are finally getting somewhere. But still a long way from getting a bare pass mark I’m afraid. The effort so far is extremely disappointing given I am seeing the term CT'ers being thrown around with gay abandon in other threads still. You wish to categorise someone or a group but are unable to define them? Just seems like a derogatory term to me. A bit like a racist or religious taunt.

Simplistic and unsophisticated, haven’t changed my view. Then again you have had your explanation of events provided for you after all.

Seems to me like when challenged to "put up" you "shut up".
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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2018, 02:26:10 PM »

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And in the past you have claimed that CT'ers are enemies of democracy have you not?

Can we add this to the list of CT attributes?



No. Because I only said that some CTers are enemies of democracy.

Certainly, this is true. The Soviets paid for Mark Lane’s first book on the JFK conspiracy “Rush to Judgement” back in the mid 1960’s. They arranged for certain European newspapers to publish pro conspiracy articles in 1964. Once the JFK conspiracy industry got well started, they backed off.

Is the Kremlin not to be considered an enemy of democracy?

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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2018, 02:39:12 PM »

There is nothing wrong with the phrase “Conspiracy Theorist”. It is an accurate description. One who believes in a conspiracy theory. In this case, a conspiracy to murder President Kennedy.

CTers don’t like this term because it links to other believes in a Large Secret Conspiracies that successfully keep the secret of their existence from a large segment of the population for a long period of time. Like the Believers in a worldwide Jewish Conspiracy. Or believers in the Illuminati. Or a worldwide conspiracy among the Freemasons. Or the Apollo Moon Landing Hoax.



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It's not that I find the term bothersome but relatively simplistic and lacking in sophistication. Personally I would prefer the label sceptic or "WC sceptic". In contrast Lone Nut is a term that immediately defines that sides position. You all suffer from monorchism  8).


People who believe in a false theory sometimes hope to adopt the name or part of the name from the rational side. Creationists like to call themselves “Scientific Creationists” or believers in “Scientific Creation”. Giving themselves a label similar to the label the ones on the other side of the debate give themselves “Scientists”.

Skeptics, or at least the bulk of Skeptics, don’t hold with any Large Secret Conspiracy that has some success with maintaining secrecy for a long period of time. Hence, the spokesmen for Skeptics, like Michael Shermer, argue against the Holocaust Deniers, the Apollo Moon Landing Hoax believers and the JFK conspiracy theorists. So, it would be misleading and confusing if CTers adopted the name “WC sceptic”. At least until the bulk of the true skeptics adopt similar views.

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Re: A Topic for LN's: What is a CT?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2018, 02:39:12 PM »