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Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2024, 11:59:25 PM »
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     Both Roger Craig's story and the Alyea footage have been around a very long, long, time. Once again, the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community FAILED to definitely resolve the Craig mauser issue by simply asking Roger Craig.  I am also intrigued by the Roger Craig timeline when he is seen inside the train yard on the Darnell Film. His Clay Shaw testimony is far more detailed than the WC Sleep Walking Job they did. Did you know that in his Clay Shaw Testimony he detailed climbing the picket fence in order to enter the parking lot? And this was BEFORE he got to the train yard as filmed by Darnell. Craig had to of been 1 of the very 1st Law Enforcement officers to enter that parking lot behind the picket fence. What did he see, who did he see, did he smell gun smoke, etc ? According to Craig, he encountered a woman attempting to drive a car out of that parking lot. Craig's encounter with this woman had to of been only minutes after the Kill Shot. Again, the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community NOT pursuing this "encounter" while Craig was alive is another epic FAILURE inna long line of epic failures by this body of so called "researchers".   
Craig was asked in '68 by Warren Hinkle in the LA Free Press, though you simply refuse to believe it. He was also asked in the Shaw trial.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2024, 03:34:49 AM »
Craig was asked in '68 by Warren Hinkle in the LA Free Press, though you simply refuse to believe it. He was also asked in the Shaw trial.

     For starters, I specifically referenced the JFK Assassination Old Guard Researcher Community. The Clay Shaw trial is not that body. Also, the Clay Shaw trial did NOT get into detail regarding Craig's encounter. The LA Free Press was an underground publication. They have NO Credibility whatever they might have thrown out onto the street.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2024, 05:05:18 PM »
None of this addresses my point about the Alyea film. It was broadcast by WFAA midafternoon on the 22nd, and is shows a Carcano, no doubt about it.

As for the photos with apparent dark-window anomalies, this affect can be caused by bright flash and/or fill lighting during exposure. It can also be caused be contrast adjustment during development using magenta filters, which increase contrast in B&W film.

and exposure caused the boxes to be in different positions and caused the hammer on the ledge to appear ? . some of these photos were not taken at the same time .

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« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2024, 05:09:05 PM »
This is from CE 541. You can see the whole set here:

https://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pdf/WH17_CE_541.pdf

It's not uncommon to apply contrast enhancers to engraved metal to bring out detail. Talc, finely ground chalk, common white glue, and light colored tempera paint --among other agents-- are brushed into the depressions left by the engravings, then any covering the rest of the service is wiped off. This makes it much easier to read, interpret and photograph the engravings. In FE 541, the use of a white contrast agent is most clearly seen on the "TNI" proofmark at the bottom of page 239. What you think is easy-to-read text is the result of a bit of clever artifice, intended to make markings easier to read in a photograph.

what you have stated is q photographic aid if you will . that does not rule out that the print was so faint as to not be seen with the naked eye sufficient to be able to read it .

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2024, 05:13:44 PM »


There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the rifle found on the sixth floor was a 6.5 x 52 mm Italian Mannlicher Carcano M91/38 bolt-action rifle, bearing the serial number C2766, owned and used by Lee Harvey Oswald, to assassinate President John Fitzgerald Kennedy on Friday, 22 November 1963. Oswald, after being jilted by his estranged wife Marina on the eve of the assassination, not once, not twice, but thrice, was the final nail in his coffin of a long list of lifelong failures. The murder of JFK by an angry, psychopathic Marxist ideologist who despised the United States and its capitalism was a tragic happenstance of history.

that a rifle was found is a fact , however you claim to know that which you cant possibly know unless you were A up on the 6th floor at 12.30 that tragic day and B sat in the paines living room the evening before with lee and marina . also please spare us the psycho babble because you know and i know that you have zero proof to support it .

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #85 on: February 16, 2024, 01:27:41 AM »
     For starters, I specifically referenced the JFK Assassination Old Guard Researcher Community. The Clay Shaw trial is not that body. Also, the Clay Shaw trial did NOT get into detail regarding Craig's encounter. The LA Free Press was an underground publication. They have NO Credibility whatever they might have thrown out onto the street.
The Shaw trial was initiated by and prosecuted by Jim Jolly Green Giant Ego. Last I checked he would still be considered to be an "old guard researcher," if a deceased one. One of Garrison's prosecutors showed Craig a Carcano. Craig affirmed the the rifle he saw found in the Depository looked like the rifle shown to him. More important is what Craig did not say: anything about "Mauser 7.65" stamped on the barrel. Nor did he testify about the rifle ever being identified as a Mauser by anyone else. That's quite a (non) admission, given some of Craig's later Ramblings.

And your attempt to discredit the Jones/Craig interview in the LA Free is nothing more than a baseless bag of hot air. The only reason you don't like it is that you don't like what it says, and that discredits what you want to believe.
 
 

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2024, 01:33:31 AM »
what you have stated is q photographic aid if you will . that does not rule out that the print was so faint as to not be seen with the naked eye sufficient to be able to read it .
My fundamental point is that the engravings on the rifle are small and engraved blued-metal-on-blued-metal characters and are not easy to make out even in decent light.   

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2024, 05:58:21 AM »
The Shaw trial was initiated by and prosecuted by Jim Jolly Green Giant Ego. Last I checked he would still be considered to be an "old guard researcher," if a deceased one. One of Garrison's prosecutors showed Craig a Carcano. Craig affirmed the the rifle he saw found in the Depository looked like the rifle shown to him. More important is what Craig did not say: anything about "Mauser 7.65" stamped on the barrel. Nor did he testify about the rifle ever being identified as a Mauser by anyone else. That's quite a (non) admission, given some of Craig's later Ramblings.

And your attempt to discredit the Jones/Craig interview in the LA Free is nothing more than a baseless bag of hot air. The only reason you don't like it is that you don't like what it says, and that discredits what you want to believe.

             The transcript of Craig's Clay-Shaw Testimony did Not specifically mention whether the rifle shown to Craig was a Mauser.  Craig did mention that the difference between the rifle he saw at the TSBD and the one shown to him at Clay Shaw was that the  rifle inside the TSBD had a strap connected to it.
              The LA Free Press was an underground throwaway. Indisputable.   

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2024, 05:58:21 AM »