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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2023, 04:34:14 PM »
Some people believe what they want to believe (despite the evidence that indicates otherwise). This phenomenon is not uncommon. There are a lot of people who believe there was a conspiracy (despite no credible evidence of one, after almost 60-years of trying to dream up some evidence).

And a lot of people believe that Oswald killed Kennedy, despite no credible evidence that he did.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2023, 08:12:46 PM »
How is squinting at poor quality film footage "examining the rifle properly"?

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They were in the room with the rifle.
I am unaware that those who made the initial claim about a Mauser had examined the rifle properly.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2023, 03:15:46 PM »
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They were in the room with the rifle.
I am unaware that those who made the initial claim about a Mauser had examined the rifle properly.

No, but those who are squinting at poor quality film footage are declaring things like "the rifle Day pulls up from the boxes is no doubt a Mannlicher Carcano".

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2023, 05:33:39 PM »
No, but those who are squinting at poor quality film footage are declaring things like "the rifle Day pulls up from the boxes is no doubt a Mannlicher Carcano".

Not this bullsh%t again?  ::)
Here's some close-ups of the rifle in the Alyea film courtesy of DVP.
Your bizarre implication, that there is not enough detail in the imagery to be certain whether it's an MC or not, is just that - bizarre.
Get squinting -


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2023, 08:30:26 PM »
Not this bullsh%t again.

How do these "closeups" tell you that this is "no doubt" a Mannlicher Carcano?  I mean, beyond you think it looks like one?

I mean, Weitzman thought it looked like a Mauser.
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Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2023, 01:35:33 AM »
Not this bullsh%t again.

How do these "closeups" tell you that this is "no doubt" a Mannlicher Carcano?  I mean, beyond you think it looks like one?

I mean, Weitzman thought it looked like a Mauser.
You can tell that the Alyea rifle is a Carcano just by the magazine housing extending underneath the forestock. Carcanos are one of the few bolt action rifles where the magazine housing and trigger guard are integrated into a single visible unit. Carcanos are easily distinguished from other rifles with that same feature by the profile of the magazine housing. The Aylea film rifle has just that profile. In the film, you can also see the funky thumb-tab  for the  odd push-push safety that is unique to Salvatore Carcano designs. If you take the time to learn about vintage rifles, there's no question as to what it is.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2023, 03:50:04 AM »
Thanks.  Just so we're clear though:  "one of the few" means there are others, right?  Like the Nagant, or Enfield, or M95, or 35M.