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Offline Jim Hawthorn

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2023, 05:51:01 PM »
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A - Landis is telling the truth about feeling guilty about potentially mishandling what he later realized could've been a major piece of evidence. He didn't talk about it because he knew he screwed up.

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B - This is a Limited Hangout intended to cover for someone else who placed a bullet on either Kennedy's or Connolly's stretcher.


I can't see anyone of an official capacity (not even a dizzy agent under shock) putting the bullet on a stretcher which was then within a medical urgency context/procedures.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2023, 05:51:01 PM »


Offline Jon Banks

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2023, 06:22:17 PM »
Only the folks that are ignorant about the details of the JFK assassination and people biased against the authorities would believe Landis’ outlandish story. Sadly, the publishers know that there are enough people in these two categories to make this book profitable for them. Especially if it is timed to coincide with the sixtieth anniversary of the assassination. I think the publishers most likely took advantage of Landis’ advanced age and perhaps his financial situation. So I do have some sympathy for Landis. The biased folks tend to throw common sense out the window in their desperation to believe in anything other than the official story. Pleas for common sense usually go in one ear and out the other….

Come on Charles. I know you're aware that the NY Times has tended to promote the official narrative about the Kennedy assassination. They don't typically boost JFK conspiracy books.

Do you think the Times did nothing at all to determine whether or not Landis is a credible witness before publishing their article?

To me, given their history, it's significant that they are taking his book and his claim seriously. And the rest of the news media seems to be following the lead of the NY Times on the Landis story.

Again, it's possible that he could be misremembering some things. But we don't know enough to conclude that it's a hoax and Landis is just doing this to sell a book. Time will tell...
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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2023, 06:40:50 PM »
he days following the tragedy” and told in subsequent years, Mr. Hill said in an email. “In my mind, there are serious inconsistencies in his various statements/stories.”[/b]

I would like to add that Paul Landis’ outlandish story most certainly fits my definition of a morphing memory. And therefore could be added to the ones already specified in the thread by that title.

It is difficult to understand why he did not mention the bullet in his written statements of November 27/63 (18H758: 2 pages) and November 30/63 (18H751: 7 pages).  His Nov 30 statement included these details:

"Agent Hill helped Mrs . Kennedy out of the car, and I followed.   Mrs . Kennedy's purse and hat and a cigarette lighter were on the back seat. I picked these three items up as I walked through the car and followed Mrs . Kennedy into the hospital. The President's body was taken directly to an Emergency Room, and I think I remember Mrs . Kennedy following the people in but coming out almost immediately.

The door to the Emergency doom was closed and I stayed by Mrs. Kennedy's side. Someone, in the meantime, had brought a chair for Mrs . Kennedy to sit in and she and she sat just outside of the Emergency Room. There were several people milling around and with the help of a nurse we cleared all unauthorized personnel out of the immediate area."


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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2023, 06:54:31 PM »
It is difficult to understand why he did not mention the bullet in his written statements of November 27/63 (18H758: 2 pages) and November 30/63 (18H751: 7 pages).  His Nov 30 statement included these details:

"Agent Hill helped Mrs . Kennedy out of the car, and I followed.   Mrs . Kennedy's purse and hat and a cigarette lighter were on the back seat. I picked these three items up as I walked through the car and followed Mrs . Kennedy into the hospital. The President's body was taken directly to an Emergency Room, and I think I remember Mrs . Kennedy following the people in but coming out almost immediately.

The door to the Emergency doom was closed and I stayed by Mrs. Kennedy's side. Someone, in the meantime, had brought a chair for Mrs . Kennedy to sit in and she and she sat just outside of the Emergency Room. There were several people milling around and with the help of a nurse we cleared all unauthorized personnel out of the immediate area."

I don’t remember that anyone has ever said that Landis was ever actually inside Trauma Room 1. But I could be forgetting something. The account you posted appears to indicate that he stayed outside the room in the corridor when Jackie went into the room. I know that the room was relatively small and that would have been a deterrent to anyone who wasn’t needed in there.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2023, 07:01:23 PM »
Come on Charles. I know you're aware that the NY Times has tended to promote the official narrative about the Kennedy assassination. They don't typically boost JFK conspiracy books.

Do you think the Times did nothing at all to determine whether or not Landis is a credible witness before publishing their article?

To me, given their history, it's significant that they are taking his book and his claim seriously. And the rest of the news media seems to be following the lead of the NY Times on the Landis story.

Again, it's possible that he could be misremembering some things. But we don't know enough to conclude that it's a hoax and Landis is just doing this to sell a book. Time will tell...

Frankly, the fact that he was one of the Secret Service agents assigned to Jackie Kennedy instantly makes him and his outlandish story newsworthy. They’re in the business of selling newspapers. That doesn’t necessarily mean they agree with his morphed account.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
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Offline Jim Hawthorn

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2023, 07:17:50 PM »
I noticed Phyllis Hall said she saw what she described as an exit wound in JFK’s throat. That would make the shallow back of neck wound theory invalid. Also, she said that she hasn’t seen a photo of the bullet she claims to have seen on the stretcher. Has she seen a photo of CE399 and does she claim the bullet she saw was different? If so, her account definitely does not cooborrate Landis’ outlandish story.

Just looking back at the Phyllis Clark video, it's clear that she saw the bullet on the trolly next to Kennedy's head while it was on the way to the Emergencies room - so I'd say there was no time for a deliberate plant by Ruby or anyone else. I've also ruled out Landis's story so that would only leave the theory of the shallow back wound splurging out the bullet when Kennedy was put on his back on the stretcher...BUT she noticed that exit wound at the throat! Hells bells.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2023, 07:25:44 PM »
Just looking back at the Phyllis Clark video, it's clear that she saw the bullet on the trolly next to Kennedy's head while it was on the way to the Emergencies room - so I'd say there was no time for a deliberate plant by Ruby or anyone else. I've also ruled out Landis's story so that would only leave the theory of the shallow back wound splurging out the bullet when Kennedy was put on his back on the stretcher...BUT she noticed that exit wound at the throat! Hells bells.

Dr. Malcolm Perry said it was an "entry wound" (before changing his mind later).

I don't know if Phyllis was qualified to determine whether it was an entry or exit wound.

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2023, 07:36:27 PM »
Just looking back at the Phyllis Clark video, it's clear that she saw the bullet on the trolly next to Kennedy's head while it was on the way to the Emergencies room - so I'd say there was no time for a deliberate plant by Ruby or anyone else. I've also ruled out Landis's story so that would only leave the theory of the shallow back wound splurging out the bullet when Kennedy was put on his back on the stretcher...BUT she noticed that exit wound at the throat! Hells bells.


There are so many accounts of witnesses that are not consistent with each other. Anyone who has a theory can typically find at least one account that seems to support their theory, no matter how outlandish it may be. Follow the evidence and give the accounts that tend to agree with the evidence more weight than accounts that have no evidence to support them. Example: the clothing that JFK was wearing supports an exit wound in the throat.