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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2023, 07:52:10 PM »
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How has it morphed?...please go on....

You edited your post after I responded. Here is a snip from Buell Frazier’s 11/22/63 affidavit:

I did not see Lee anymore after about 11:00 AM today, and at that time, we were both working, and we were on the first floor.


These days he claims that he saw LHO walking up Houston Street beside the TSBD soon after the assassination….

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2023, 08:06:40 PM »
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My reaction exactly when I read Brennan’s book.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2023, 08:12:05 PM »
Charles Givens’ story morphed between November 22 and his WC testimony.

Warren Reynolds’ story morphed after he was shot in the head.


Nick McDonald’s story morphed every time he re-told it.


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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2023, 09:32:31 PM »
Morphing memories (as I am defining them) are ones that change character entirely. I am not interested in memories in which small details might be misremembered because that is normal for us humans. For an example of a morphing memory, as I define it, if Buell Frazier had really seen LHO walking up Houston Street after the assassination, I don’t think that there is any way he could have forgotten that when he swore that he didn’t see LHO after 11:00 am when he made his affidavit on 11/22/63.
Also, the WC testimonies included questions by the investigators which were meant to bring out additional details that might not have been included in earlier statements. So, that type of thing isn’t really a morphed memory, as I am defining it.

Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2023, 09:50:15 PM »
Morphing memories (as I am defining them) are ones that change character entirely. I am not interested in memories in which small details might be misremembered because that is normal for us humans. For an example of a morphing memory, as I define it, if Buell Frazier had really seen LHO walking up Houston Street after the assassination, I don’t think that there is any way he could have forgotten that when he swore that he didn’t see LHO after 11:00 am when he made his affidavit on 11/22/63.
Also, the WC testimonies included questions by the investigators which were meant to bring out additional details that might not have been included in earlier statements. So, that type of thing isn’t really a morphed memory, as I am defining it.

Certainly Buell could have forgotten he had seen Lee for a brief moment in his one time answer on an affidavit.
I was referring to his consistency regarding the bag he saw. I'm not aware of that story changing in 60 years.

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...questions by the investigators which were meant to bring out additional details

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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2023, 09:53:04 PM »
Charles Givens’ story morphed between November 22 and his WC testimony.

Warren Reynolds’ story morphed after he was shot in the head.


Nick McDonald’s story morphed every time he re-told it.

Before he was shot in the head, Warren Reynolds told the FBI that he was "of the opinion" that the man he saw was Oswald.

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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2023, 09:56:43 PM »
Morphing memories (as I am defining them) are ones that change character entirely. I am not interested in memories in which small details might be misremembered because that is normal for us humans. For an example of a morphing memory, as I define it, if Buell Frazier had really seen LHO walking up Houston Street after the assassination, I don’t think that there is any way he could have forgotten that when he swore that he didn’t see LHO after 11:00 am when he made his affidavit on 11/22/63.
Also, the WC testimonies included questions by the investigators which were meant to bring out additional details that might not have been included in earlier statements. So, that type of thing isn’t really a morphed memory, as I am defining it.

In 1968, during an interview (along with Penn Jones) with the L.A. Free Press, Roger Craig was asked about the Tippit shooting.  Craig told the interviewer that the shooting occurred at 1:45.

Jones immediately corrected Craig, informing him that the shooting occurred around 1:15.  Craig responded with "Oh?  Is that right? Okay." (or words to that effect, I'm going by memory)

The bottom line is, in 1968, Craig obviously had no idea what time the Tippit shooting occurred.

Then, in the early 70's when writing his manuscript, Craig tells the story of being in Dealey Plaza and hearing of the shooting of the police officer in Oak Cliff.  In the scenario, Craig supposedly looks at his watch and notes that it said the time was 1:06.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Morphing Memories
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2023, 12:10:31 AM »
Sounds like Roger Craig doesn’t meet Charles’ (arbitrary) standard of excluding “memories in which small details might be misremembered”.

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2023, 12:10:31 AM »