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Where was Dulles on 11/22/63?
« on: August 02, 2023, 06:36:49 PM »
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Allen Dulles’ Weekend at The Farm
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According to Talbot, Dulles was in Washington that day but he did not spend the late afternoon or evening at his home in Georgetown. He was at the top secret CIA facility known officially as Camp Peary. It was unofficially known as The Farm. And according to the date book, Dulles was there from at least late Friday afternoon, through Saturday and Sunday of that dramatic weekend. In other words during the Kennedy autopsy, while Lee Oswald was in detention and after Jack Ruby shot the alleged assassin.

This is odd since, at the time of the assassination of President Kennedy, Allen Dulles had no formal role in the government of the United States. He was what was called a “gray eminence” a figure from a storied past collecting his civil service pension and giving speeches promoting the Cold War. But The Farm, located in southeast Virginia’s, York County, was not a club for Agency veterans to swig bourbon and talk about the overthrow of Mossadegh. It was a busy, coordinated center for testing and experimenting clandestine activities. This huge, sprawling base—over 9000 acres—is partly used to train CIA employees in the Directorate of Operations, as well as their equivalent in the, at that time, new Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). (An example would be the opening scene in David Mamet’s spy thriller Spartan.) Interestingly, according to Wikipedia, it is also available for off-site conferences and working groups. According to a CIA officer who visited there for three weeks, one thing they did was to stage mock executions. It was heavily guarded, but with a living legend like Dulles that stricture probably did not apply.

As Talbot writes, prior to Dulles renovating it, Camp Peary was used by the Navy Seabees and then as a prisoner of war camp for captured German sailors. According to former CIA officers Phil Agee and Victor Marchetti, “among the well-trained professionals turned out by The Farm were skilled assassins.” (Talbot, p. 546). Dulles had built for himself a sort of second home at Camp Peary, one with a well-stocked library, including current CIA reports and intel estimates. Quoting Dan Hardway, former House Select Committee on Assassinations investigator, “The Farm was basically an alternative CIA headquarters, from where Dulles could direct ops.”

And let us not forget another important point that Talbot elucidates in his book. Not only did Dulles continually meet with high CIA officials after he was fired by President Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs. He was also meeting with a mysterious but prominent Cuban exile leader named Paulino Sierra Martinez. (Talbot, p. 458). In fact, in the spring of 1963, Sierra met with both Dulles and General Lucius D. Clay. Both men had made a name by crossing Kennedy.

http://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/allen-dulles-weekend-at-the-farm

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Where was Dulles on 11/22/63?
« on: August 02, 2023, 06:36:49 PM »


Offline Alan J. Ford

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Re: Where was Dulles on 11/22/63?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2023, 04:37:57 PM »
Allen Dulles’ Weekend at The Farm
http://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/allen-dulles-weekend-at-the-farm

Fascinating

Thanks for sharing this, Mr. Banks, have no love lost for Allen Welsh Dulles.

He could make even the serpent in the Garden of Eden blush. Amazing what some people will do for thirty-pieces of sliver...lying treasonous coward.

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Re: Where was Dulles on 11/22/63?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2023, 10:23:54 PM »
Thanks for sharing this, Mr. Banks, have no love lost for Allen Welsh Dulles.

He could make even the serpent in the Garden of Eden blush. Amazing what some people will do for thirty-pieces of sliver...lying treasonous coward.

He and his brother got off easy for their relationships with the Nazis during WWII...

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Re: Where was Dulles on 11/22/63?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2023, 04:23:01 PM »
He and his brother got off easy for their relationships with the Nazis during WWII...

A very telling statement there, Mr. Banks, so indicative of the "do as I say, not as I do" crowd of hypocrites you mentioned. Both of them, Hoover over at the Bureau, and the rest of their ilk who had the audacity to hold President Kennedy's feet to the fire for a liaison with a German spy, yet look the other way when their Warren Omission "rubber-stamp" (Gerald R. Ford) was doing the same.

Ford's an interesting story. Here we have a man who received not a single vote to hold either the vice-presidency or presidency rewarded for his Warren Omission service. When it comes to the Dulles-duo, "move the bullet up" Ford, and the rest of their ilk...the following quote comes to mind...

Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder. -- George Washington

Bunch of lying treasonous cowards blaming an innocent party for something he didn't do. Amazing what some people will do for thirty-pieces of silver.