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Offline Wesley Johnson

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Who do you believe?
« on: March 07, 2018, 05:37:42 PM »
Who do you believe?
Carolyn Arnold stated that she had lunch in the second floor lunchroom and saw Oswald there at around 12:25. She did not say this until 15 YEARS LATER!
Oswald told Capt. Will Fritz that he had lunch on the first floor with Jarman and Norman.
Pauline Sanders stated that she was in the second floor lunchroom at the time Arnold was there and she DID NOT SEE Oswald!
Jarman and Norman both stated that they did not have lunch with Oswald.
Obviously Oswald could not have had lunch on the second floor and the first floor.
So, whom do you believe? 

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 06:22:02 PM »
Who do you believe?
Carolyn Arnold stated that she had lunch in the second floor lunchroom and saw Oswald there at around 12:25. She did not say this until 15 YEARS LATER!

Do you believe what Jack Tatum and Louie Steven Witt said 15 YEARS LATER?

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Oswald told Capt. Will Fritz that he had lunch on the first floor with Jarman and Norman.

That's debatable.  There are several different accounts of what Oswald said about Jarman and Norman.

Fritz's notes:  "two negr. came in.....one Jr. + short negro."

Fritz's report: "he said he ate lunch with some of the colored boys who worked with him. One of them was called "Junior" and the other one was a little short man whose name he did not know."

Bookhout's report: "recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period."

Kelley's report: "He said he ate his lunch with the colored boys who worked with him. He described one of them as "Junior," a colored boy, and the other was little short negro boy."

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Pauline Sanders stated that she was in the second floor lunchroom at the time Arnold was there and she DID NOT SEE Oswald!

What kind of argument is this?  How many people DID NOT SEE Oswald in the 6th floor window?

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Re: Who do you believe?
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Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 06:46:47 PM »
Do you believe what Jack Tatum and Louie Steven Witt said 15 YEARS LATER?

That's debatable.  There are several different accounts of what Oswald said about Jarman and Norman.

Fritz's notes:  "two negr. came in.....one Jr. + short negro."

Fritz's report: "he said he ate lunch with some of the colored boys who worked with him. One of them was called "Junior" and the other one was a little short man whose name he did not know."

Bookhout's report: "recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period."

Kelley's report: "He said he ate his lunch with the colored boys who worked with him. He described one of them as "Junior," a colored boy, and the other was little short negro boy."

What kind of argument is this?  How many people DID NOT SEE Oswald in the 6th floor window?


You didn't answer the question. Who do you believe Oswald or Arnold? And several witnesses did see a gunman in the window.


Offline Keyvan Shahrdar

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 07:21:38 PM »
What is this debate about?  Does someone here believe Oswald is innocent?

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Online Michael O'Brian

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 07:30:55 PM »
We can't believe anything which Fritz alleges Oswald to have said, the captain was an obvious nazi and would not have cared about a Communist supporter, and he proved this when  he set up his prisoner to be murdered in custody

Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 07:38:48 PM »
What is this debate about?  Does someone here believe Oswald is innocent?




By the way, I believe Oswald acted alone. It's just a question for CT's. A lot of them will point to Arnold as proof that Oswald was in the second floor lunchroom when the president was shot. That disputes what their hero Oswald said. They can't have it both ways. I just want to see what they say.

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 08:02:14 PM »
Do you believe what Jack Tatum and Louie Steven Witt said 15 YEARS LATER?







Jack Tatum simply reinforced what already happened whereas Arnold made up an entirely new story.

Louie Steven Witt just clarified what he did and the alternative that he used a poison dart is probably likely in your world.


Btw why this weak attempt at diverting away from Wesley's powerful presentation but I suppose when you have no evidence this type of digression is all you got!



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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2018, 08:27:05 PM »
You didn't answer the question. Who do you believe Oswald or Arnold?

I don't know if I believe Oswald or not, since I have no idea what he actually said.

I believe that Arnold caught a glimpse of somebody she recalled as being Oswald.  Exactly when and where this happened is a matter of dispute.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 08:29:16 PM »
By the way, I believe Oswald acted alone. It's just a question for CT's. A lot of them will point to Arnold as proof that Oswald was in the second floor lunchroom when the president was shot. That disputes what their hero Oswald said. They can't have it both ways. I just want to see what they say.

Why does Oswald become anybody's hero just because they reject your weak arguments for Oswald's guilt?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 08:32:51 PM »
Do you believe what Jack Tatum and Louie Steven Witt said 15 YEARS LATER?


Do you?

 

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